Longitude and Latitude order with ST_X, and ST_Y on SRID 4326












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I have a MySQL 8.0.15 and I am experimenting with the geo-spatial location functions. I have applied SRID 4326 to the "loc" column.



Nothing in the docs other than the primitive Point() suggests the input as "x,y" or "long, lat" but if I run the following query:



INSERT INTO organization 
(loc, spots, name, phone, website, account_id, category_id)
VALUES
(
ST_PointFromText("POINT(-113.532000 54.733000)", 4326),
10,
"Baptiste",
" ",
null,
null,
null
);



SQL Error (3617): Latitude -113.532000 is out of range in function st_pointfromtext. [It must be within -90 > +90]




Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.



SELECT 
*,

ST_Y(loc) as lat,
ST_X(loc) as lng

FROM
organization;


What am I not understanding about how these functions and coordinates work?



Seems the POINT() actually accepts LAT, LON on input - but when querying one must remember that Y is latitude, and X is longitude???



TIA










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    I have a MySQL 8.0.15 and I am experimenting with the geo-spatial location functions. I have applied SRID 4326 to the "loc" column.



    Nothing in the docs other than the primitive Point() suggests the input as "x,y" or "long, lat" but if I run the following query:



    INSERT INTO organization 
    (loc, spots, name, phone, website, account_id, category_id)
    VALUES
    (
    ST_PointFromText("POINT(-113.532000 54.733000)", 4326),
    10,
    "Baptiste",
    " ",
    null,
    null,
    null
    );



    SQL Error (3617): Latitude -113.532000 is out of range in function st_pointfromtext. [It must be within -90 > +90]




    Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.



    SELECT 
    *,

    ST_Y(loc) as lat,
    ST_X(loc) as lng

    FROM
    organization;


    What am I not understanding about how these functions and coordinates work?



    Seems the POINT() actually accepts LAT, LON on input - but when querying one must remember that Y is latitude, and X is longitude???



    TIA










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      I have a MySQL 8.0.15 and I am experimenting with the geo-spatial location functions. I have applied SRID 4326 to the "loc" column.



      Nothing in the docs other than the primitive Point() suggests the input as "x,y" or "long, lat" but if I run the following query:



      INSERT INTO organization 
      (loc, spots, name, phone, website, account_id, category_id)
      VALUES
      (
      ST_PointFromText("POINT(-113.532000 54.733000)", 4326),
      10,
      "Baptiste",
      " ",
      null,
      null,
      null
      );



      SQL Error (3617): Latitude -113.532000 is out of range in function st_pointfromtext. [It must be within -90 > +90]




      Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.



      SELECT 
      *,

      ST_Y(loc) as lat,
      ST_X(loc) as lng

      FROM
      organization;


      What am I not understanding about how these functions and coordinates work?



      Seems the POINT() actually accepts LAT, LON on input - but when querying one must remember that Y is latitude, and X is longitude???



      TIA










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      I have a MySQL 8.0.15 and I am experimenting with the geo-spatial location functions. I have applied SRID 4326 to the "loc" column.



      Nothing in the docs other than the primitive Point() suggests the input as "x,y" or "long, lat" but if I run the following query:



      INSERT INTO organization 
      (loc, spots, name, phone, website, account_id, category_id)
      VALUES
      (
      ST_PointFromText("POINT(-113.532000 54.733000)", 4326),
      10,
      "Baptiste",
      " ",
      null,
      null,
      null
      );



      SQL Error (3617): Latitude -113.532000 is out of range in function st_pointfromtext. [It must be within -90 > +90]




      Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.



      SELECT 
      *,

      ST_Y(loc) as lat,
      ST_X(loc) as lng

      FROM
      organization;


      What am I not understanding about how these functions and coordinates work?



      Seems the POINT() actually accepts LAT, LON on input - but when querying one must remember that Y is latitude, and X is longitude???



      TIA







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          Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.




          That's because MySQL and Microsoft do the absolutely insane thing of swapping the order in geographic representations because that's what the EPSG says (look . Oracle and PostGIS do not. There is no X/Y in MySQL Geographic Representation. With MySQL v8, they tried to fix this while maintaining total and utter insanity by introducing




          • ST_Longitude()

          • ST_Latitude()


          For more information check out Paul Ramsey's blog entry, "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off..."





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            Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.




            That's because MySQL and Microsoft do the absolutely insane thing of swapping the order in geographic representations because that's what the EPSG says (look . Oracle and PostGIS do not. There is no X/Y in MySQL Geographic Representation. With MySQL v8, they tried to fix this while maintaining total and utter insanity by introducing




            • ST_Longitude()

            • ST_Latitude()


            For more information check out Paul Ramsey's blog entry, "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off..."





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              Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.




              That's because MySQL and Microsoft do the absolutely insane thing of swapping the order in geographic representations because that's what the EPSG says (look . Oracle and PostGIS do not. There is no X/Y in MySQL Geographic Representation. With MySQL v8, they tried to fix this while maintaining total and utter insanity by introducing




              • ST_Longitude()

              • ST_Latitude()


              For more information check out Paul Ramsey's blog entry, "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off..."





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                Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.




                That's because MySQL and Microsoft do the absolutely insane thing of swapping the order in geographic representations because that's what the EPSG says (look . Oracle and PostGIS do not. There is no X/Y in MySQL Geographic Representation. With MySQL v8, they tried to fix this while maintaining total and utter insanity by introducing




                • ST_Longitude()

                • ST_Latitude()


                For more information check out Paul Ramsey's blog entry, "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off..."





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                Which makes perfect sense as there are no 113 degrees of latitude - but when I swap the lat/lon parameters - everything works! However when I query the lat/lon the results are backwards.




                That's because MySQL and Microsoft do the absolutely insane thing of swapping the order in geographic representations because that's what the EPSG says (look . Oracle and PostGIS do not. There is no X/Y in MySQL Geographic Representation. With MySQL v8, they tried to fix this while maintaining total and utter insanity by introducing




                • ST_Longitude()

                • ST_Latitude()


                For more information check out Paul Ramsey's blog entry, "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off..."






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