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それで何だっけ?

昨日の夜の話

全然覚えてない

「電話が鳴って君からだってわかったら

急に変な気分になったんだ。」




This is an excerpt of lyrics from Indigo la End's song 彼女の相談. I can't figure out what function the や in line 3 performs.



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    それで何だっけ?

    昨日の夜の話

    全然覚えてない

    「電話が鳴って君からだってわかったら

    急に変な気分になったんだ。」




    This is an excerpt of lyrics from Indigo la End's song 彼女の相談. I can't figure out what function the や in line 3 performs.



    Does anyone have any input?










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      それで何だっけ?

      昨日の夜の話

      全然覚えてない

      「電話が鳴って君からだってわかったら

      急に変な気分になったんだ。」




      This is an excerpt of lyrics from Indigo la End's song 彼女の相談. I can't figure out what function the や in line 3 performs.



      Does anyone have any input?










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      それで何だっけ?

      昨日の夜の話

      全然覚えてない

      「電話が鳴って君からだってわかったら

      急に変な気分になったんだ。」




      This is an excerpt of lyrics from Indigo la End's song 彼女の相談. I can't figure out what function the や in line 3 performs.



      Does anyone have any input?







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          や at the end of a sentence has various meanings, but it's roughly categorized into two.




          1. Kansai colloquial copula や (used in place of だ)

          2. True sentence-end particle や


          Perhaps you'll see Kansai-ben's や more often, and it's discussed in many existing questions here:




          • I don't understand what やな means at the end of a sentence...?

          • The meaning of んや


          But since や in your example comes right after ない, it's a sentence-end particle. (You cannot say ないだ, anyway.)




          1. [after an i-adjective] Exclamation ("Oh", "Wow", sounds childish)


            すごいや! Wow, it's great!

            ひどいや! You're so cruel!




          2. [after an imperative verb] Persuasion, urging ("Come on", "You", sounds masculine and rough)


            飲めや。 Drink it.

            死ねや! Die!




          3. [after an animate noun] Vocative ("Hey", "O", sounds old) See: What does や after someone's name mean exactly?


            シンデレラや、舞踏会に行きたいのかい? Cinderella, do you want to go to the ball?




          4. [usually after いい or ない] Indifference, giving up, reluctant acceptance ("Oh well", "Meh") See: Meaning of や in 「もうどうだっていいや」


            それでいいや。 Well, that's okay (if not ideal).

            どうでもいいや。 Whatever. / Let it go. / I don't care.

            もう知らないや。 I don't care about it anymore.

            うーん、わかんないや。 Hmm, I don't know. / I give up.





          In your case, や is used in the fourth sense. This や expresses the speaker is not particularly serious about 覚えていない(こと). In the lyrics, the woman is serious, but the guy doesn't even remember what they talked about yesterday.






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            や at the end of a sentence has various meanings, but it's roughly categorized into two.




            1. Kansai colloquial copula や (used in place of だ)

            2. True sentence-end particle や


            Perhaps you'll see Kansai-ben's や more often, and it's discussed in many existing questions here:




            • I don't understand what やな means at the end of a sentence...?

            • The meaning of んや


            But since や in your example comes right after ない, it's a sentence-end particle. (You cannot say ないだ, anyway.)




            1. [after an i-adjective] Exclamation ("Oh", "Wow", sounds childish)


              すごいや! Wow, it's great!

              ひどいや! You're so cruel!




            2. [after an imperative verb] Persuasion, urging ("Come on", "You", sounds masculine and rough)


              飲めや。 Drink it.

              死ねや! Die!




            3. [after an animate noun] Vocative ("Hey", "O", sounds old) See: What does や after someone's name mean exactly?


              シンデレラや、舞踏会に行きたいのかい? Cinderella, do you want to go to the ball?




            4. [usually after いい or ない] Indifference, giving up, reluctant acceptance ("Oh well", "Meh") See: Meaning of や in 「もうどうだっていいや」


              それでいいや。 Well, that's okay (if not ideal).

              どうでもいいや。 Whatever. / Let it go. / I don't care.

              もう知らないや。 I don't care about it anymore.

              うーん、わかんないや。 Hmm, I don't know. / I give up.





            In your case, や is used in the fourth sense. This や expresses the speaker is not particularly serious about 覚えていない(こと). In the lyrics, the woman is serious, but the guy doesn't even remember what they talked about yesterday.






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              や at the end of a sentence has various meanings, but it's roughly categorized into two.




              1. Kansai colloquial copula や (used in place of だ)

              2. True sentence-end particle や


              Perhaps you'll see Kansai-ben's や more often, and it's discussed in many existing questions here:




              • I don't understand what やな means at the end of a sentence...?

              • The meaning of んや


              But since や in your example comes right after ない, it's a sentence-end particle. (You cannot say ないだ, anyway.)




              1. [after an i-adjective] Exclamation ("Oh", "Wow", sounds childish)


                すごいや! Wow, it's great!

                ひどいや! You're so cruel!




              2. [after an imperative verb] Persuasion, urging ("Come on", "You", sounds masculine and rough)


                飲めや。 Drink it.

                死ねや! Die!




              3. [after an animate noun] Vocative ("Hey", "O", sounds old) See: What does や after someone's name mean exactly?


                シンデレラや、舞踏会に行きたいのかい? Cinderella, do you want to go to the ball?




              4. [usually after いい or ない] Indifference, giving up, reluctant acceptance ("Oh well", "Meh") See: Meaning of や in 「もうどうだっていいや」


                それでいいや。 Well, that's okay (if not ideal).

                どうでもいいや。 Whatever. / Let it go. / I don't care.

                もう知らないや。 I don't care about it anymore.

                うーん、わかんないや。 Hmm, I don't know. / I give up.





              In your case, や is used in the fourth sense. This や expresses the speaker is not particularly serious about 覚えていない(こと). In the lyrics, the woman is serious, but the guy doesn't even remember what they talked about yesterday.






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                や at the end of a sentence has various meanings, but it's roughly categorized into two.




                1. Kansai colloquial copula や (used in place of だ)

                2. True sentence-end particle や


                Perhaps you'll see Kansai-ben's や more often, and it's discussed in many existing questions here:




                • I don't understand what やな means at the end of a sentence...?

                • The meaning of んや


                But since や in your example comes right after ない, it's a sentence-end particle. (You cannot say ないだ, anyway.)




                1. [after an i-adjective] Exclamation ("Oh", "Wow", sounds childish)


                  すごいや! Wow, it's great!

                  ひどいや! You're so cruel!




                2. [after an imperative verb] Persuasion, urging ("Come on", "You", sounds masculine and rough)


                  飲めや。 Drink it.

                  死ねや! Die!




                3. [after an animate noun] Vocative ("Hey", "O", sounds old) See: What does や after someone's name mean exactly?


                  シンデレラや、舞踏会に行きたいのかい? Cinderella, do you want to go to the ball?




                4. [usually after いい or ない] Indifference, giving up, reluctant acceptance ("Oh well", "Meh") See: Meaning of や in 「もうどうだっていいや」


                  それでいいや。 Well, that's okay (if not ideal).

                  どうでもいいや。 Whatever. / Let it go. / I don't care.

                  もう知らないや。 I don't care about it anymore.

                  うーん、わかんないや。 Hmm, I don't know. / I give up.





                In your case, や is used in the fourth sense. This や expresses the speaker is not particularly serious about 覚えていない(こと). In the lyrics, the woman is serious, but the guy doesn't even remember what they talked about yesterday.






                share|improve this answer















                や at the end of a sentence has various meanings, but it's roughly categorized into two.




                1. Kansai colloquial copula や (used in place of だ)

                2. True sentence-end particle や


                Perhaps you'll see Kansai-ben's や more often, and it's discussed in many existing questions here:




                • I don't understand what やな means at the end of a sentence...?

                • The meaning of んや


                But since や in your example comes right after ない, it's a sentence-end particle. (You cannot say ないだ, anyway.)




                1. [after an i-adjective] Exclamation ("Oh", "Wow", sounds childish)


                  すごいや! Wow, it's great!

                  ひどいや! You're so cruel!




                2. [after an imperative verb] Persuasion, urging ("Come on", "You", sounds masculine and rough)


                  飲めや。 Drink it.

                  死ねや! Die!




                3. [after an animate noun] Vocative ("Hey", "O", sounds old) See: What does や after someone's name mean exactly?


                  シンデレラや、舞踏会に行きたいのかい? Cinderella, do you want to go to the ball?




                4. [usually after いい or ない] Indifference, giving up, reluctant acceptance ("Oh well", "Meh") See: Meaning of や in 「もうどうだっていいや」


                  それでいいや。 Well, that's okay (if not ideal).

                  どうでもいいや。 Whatever. / Let it go. / I don't care.

                  もう知らないや。 I don't care about it anymore.

                  うーん、わかんないや。 Hmm, I don't know. / I give up.





                In your case, や is used in the fourth sense. This や expresses the speaker is not particularly serious about 覚えていない(こと). In the lyrics, the woman is serious, but the guy doesn't even remember what they talked about yesterday.







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