Did the DC-9 ever use RATO in revenue service?
$begingroup$
While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:
... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]
Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?
EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".
dc-9-family rato
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:
... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]
Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?
EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".
dc-9-family rato
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
4 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:
... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]
Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?
EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".
dc-9-family rato
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
$endgroup$
While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:
... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]
Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?
EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".
dc-9-family rato
dc-9-family rato
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
edited 4 hours ago
Sean
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
asked 5 hours ago
SeanSean
5,47732667
5,47732667
1
$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
4 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
4 hours ago
$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
4 hours ago
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.
I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.
Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:
Source: UT Dallas
It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:
Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)
The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "528"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2faviation.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f61689%2fdid-the-dc-9-ever-use-rato-in-revenue-service%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.
I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.
Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:
Source: UT Dallas
It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:
Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)
The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.
I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.
Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:
Source: UT Dallas
It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:
Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)
The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.
I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.
Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:
Source: UT Dallas
It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:
Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)
The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
$endgroup$
The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.
I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.
Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:
Source: UT Dallas
It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:
Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)
The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
edited 2 hours ago
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
answered 2 hours ago
Ron BeyerRon Beyer
22k281102
22k281102
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Aviation Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2faviation.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f61689%2fdid-the-dc-9-ever-use-rato-in-revenue-service%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
1
$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
5 hours ago
$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
4 hours ago