Guide to protect SQL Server against speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities
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I am going through this link. My question is regarding Scenario 1 under recommendation as most of our SQL Servers run on physical machine
SQL Server runs on "bare metal" (no virtual machines)
AND no other untrusted application logic (application tier) is run on
the same machine
AND no untrusted SQL Server extensibility interfaces are being used
(see below for list).
What does it mean by untrusted application logic?
Does a webserver running on the same server with internally developed site constitute untrusted application logic?
What about a third party services that monitors the server?
sql-server sql-server-2014
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I am going through this link. My question is regarding Scenario 1 under recommendation as most of our SQL Servers run on physical machine
SQL Server runs on "bare metal" (no virtual machines)
AND no other untrusted application logic (application tier) is run on
the same machine
AND no untrusted SQL Server extensibility interfaces are being used
(see below for list).
What does it mean by untrusted application logic?
Does a webserver running on the same server with internally developed site constitute untrusted application logic?
What about a third party services that monitors the server?
sql-server sql-server-2014
asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
sercuritysercurity
434
bumped to the homepage by Community♦ 3 hours ago
This question has answers that may be good or bad; the system has marked it active so that they can be reviewed.
The definition of "untrusted" is simply up to your judgement. Assuming you trust Microsoft's software, if you trust your web developers and the website is using IIS, then the website is not untrusted. Again, for the monitoring software--do you trust the developer? If it's freeware that you downloaded from www.bobsmalware.com, then probably not, but if it's a major, reputable software developer, then probably.
– Tony Hinkle
Jan 8 '18 at 18:12
Thanks @TonyHinkle, i was under the impression that the word "Trust" had some technical meaning in programming. Something like the executionpolicy setting in powershell or clr secury.
– sercurity
Jan 8 '18 at 19:59
@security - now you know, in programming, trusted not secure has no meaning at all :)
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 7:56
This is probably the most disturbing example of untrusted application logic: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Notice that antivirus companies was involved in this scam, and AFAIK Symantec was paid for lack of detection. Another example: latest Kaspersky scam.
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 8:05
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I am going through this link. My question is regarding Scenario 1 under recommendation as most of our SQL Servers run on physical machine
SQL Server runs on "bare metal" (no virtual machines)
AND no other untrusted application logic (application tier) is run on
the same machine
AND no untrusted SQL Server extensibility interfaces are being used
(see below for list).
What does it mean by untrusted application logic?
Does a webserver running on the same server with internally developed site constitute untrusted application logic?
What about a third party services that monitors the server?
sql-server sql-server-2014
asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
sercuritysercurity
434
I am going through this link. My question is regarding Scenario 1 under recommendation as most of our SQL Servers run on physical machine
SQL Server runs on "bare metal" (no virtual machines)
AND no other untrusted application logic (application tier) is run on
the same machine
AND no untrusted SQL Server extensibility interfaces are being used
(see below for list).
What does it mean by untrusted application logic?
Does a webserver running on the same server with internally developed site constitute untrusted application logic?
What about a third party services that monitors the server?
sql-server sql-server-2014
sql-server sql-server-2014
asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
sercuritysercurity
434
asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
sercuritysercurity
434
asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
sercuritysercurity
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asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
sercuritysercurity
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asked Jan 8 '18 at 4:16
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The definition of "untrusted" is simply up to your judgement. Assuming you trust Microsoft's software, if you trust your web developers and the website is using IIS, then the website is not untrusted. Again, for the monitoring software--do you trust the developer? If it's freeware that you downloaded from www.bobsmalware.com, then probably not, but if it's a major, reputable software developer, then probably.
– Tony Hinkle
Jan 8 '18 at 18:12
Thanks @TonyHinkle, i was under the impression that the word "Trust" had some technical meaning in programming. Something like the executionpolicy setting in powershell or clr secury.
– sercurity
Jan 8 '18 at 19:59
@security - now you know, in programming, trusted not secure has no meaning at all :)
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 7:56
This is probably the most disturbing example of untrusted application logic: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Notice that antivirus companies was involved in this scam, and AFAIK Symantec was paid for lack of detection. Another example: latest Kaspersky scam.
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 8:05
add a comment |
The definition of "untrusted" is simply up to your judgement. Assuming you trust Microsoft's software, if you trust your web developers and the website is using IIS, then the website is not untrusted. Again, for the monitoring software--do you trust the developer? If it's freeware that you downloaded from www.bobsmalware.com, then probably not, but if it's a major, reputable software developer, then probably.
– Tony Hinkle
Jan 8 '18 at 18:12
Thanks @TonyHinkle, i was under the impression that the word "Trust" had some technical meaning in programming. Something like the executionpolicy setting in powershell or clr secury.
– sercurity
Jan 8 '18 at 19:59
@security - now you know, in programming, trusted not secure has no meaning at all :)
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 7:56
This is probably the most disturbing example of untrusted application logic: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Notice that antivirus companies was involved in this scam, and AFAIK Symantec was paid for lack of detection. Another example: latest Kaspersky scam.
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 8:05
The definition of "untrusted" is simply up to your judgement. Assuming you trust Microsoft's software, if you trust your web developers and the website is using IIS, then the website is not untrusted. Again, for the monitoring software--do you trust the developer? If it's freeware that you downloaded from www.bobsmalware.com, then probably not, but if it's a major, reputable software developer, then probably.
– Tony Hinkle
Jan 8 '18 at 18:12
The definition of "untrusted" is simply up to your judgement. Assuming you trust Microsoft's software, if you trust your web developers and the website is using IIS, then the website is not untrusted. Again, for the monitoring software--do you trust the developer? If it's freeware that you downloaded from www.bobsmalware.com, then probably not, but if it's a major, reputable software developer, then probably.
– Tony Hinkle
Jan 8 '18 at 18:12
Thanks @TonyHinkle, i was under the impression that the word "Trust" had some technical meaning in programming. Something like the executionpolicy setting in powershell or clr secury.
– sercurity
Jan 8 '18 at 19:59
Thanks @TonyHinkle, i was under the impression that the word "Trust" had some technical meaning in programming. Something like the executionpolicy setting in powershell or clr secury.
– sercurity
Jan 8 '18 at 19:59
@security - now you know, in programming, trusted not secure has no meaning at all :)
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 7:56
@security - now you know, in programming, trusted not secure has no meaning at all :)
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 7:56
This is probably the most disturbing example of untrusted application logic: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Notice that antivirus companies was involved in this scam, and AFAIK Symantec was paid for lack of detection. Another example: latest Kaspersky scam.
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 8:05
This is probably the most disturbing example of untrusted application logic: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Notice that antivirus companies was involved in this scam, and AFAIK Symantec was paid for lack of detection. Another example: latest Kaspersky scam.
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 8:05
add a comment |
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Untrusted application logic means any application or service running any logic that you(r organization) does not trust.
For your purpose, if you want to be lenient (potentially less secure) you can substitute "unauthorized" for "untrusted" - if the server is running any unauthorized code, it falls under that category.
If you want to be conservative (potentially more secure), assume all your servers run untrusted application logic and move on with that as a founding security assumption, applying the more secure recommendations to them.
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Untrusted application logic means any application or service running any logic that you(r organization) does not trust.
For your purpose, if you want to be lenient (potentially less secure) you can substitute "unauthorized" for "untrusted" - if the server is running any unauthorized code, it falls under that category.
If you want to be conservative (potentially more secure), assume all your servers run untrusted application logic and move on with that as a founding security assumption, applying the more secure recommendations to them.
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Untrusted application logic means any application or service running any logic that you(r organization) does not trust.
For your purpose, if you want to be lenient (potentially less secure) you can substitute "unauthorized" for "untrusted" - if the server is running any unauthorized code, it falls under that category.
If you want to be conservative (potentially more secure), assume all your servers run untrusted application logic and move on with that as a founding security assumption, applying the more secure recommendations to them.
answered Jan 10 '18 at 2:56
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Untrusted application logic means any application or service running any logic that you(r organization) does not trust.
For your purpose, if you want to be lenient (potentially less secure) you can substitute "unauthorized" for "untrusted" - if the server is running any unauthorized code, it falls under that category.
If you want to be conservative (potentially more secure), assume all your servers run untrusted application logic and move on with that as a founding security assumption, applying the more secure recommendations to them.
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Untrusted application logic means any application or service running any logic that you(r organization) does not trust.
For your purpose, if you want to be lenient (potentially less secure) you can substitute "unauthorized" for "untrusted" - if the server is running any unauthorized code, it falls under that category.
If you want to be conservative (potentially more secure), assume all your servers run untrusted application logic and move on with that as a founding security assumption, applying the more secure recommendations to them.
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The definition of "untrusted" is simply up to your judgement. Assuming you trust Microsoft's software, if you trust your web developers and the website is using IIS, then the website is not untrusted. Again, for the monitoring software--do you trust the developer? If it's freeware that you downloaded from www.bobsmalware.com, then probably not, but if it's a major, reputable software developer, then probably.
– Tony Hinkle
Jan 8 '18 at 18:12
Thanks @TonyHinkle, i was under the impression that the word "Trust" had some technical meaning in programming. Something like the executionpolicy setting in powershell or clr secury.
– sercurity
Jan 8 '18 at 19:59
@security - now you know, in programming, trusted not secure has no meaning at all :)
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 7:56
This is probably the most disturbing example of untrusted application logic: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Notice that antivirus companies was involved in this scam, and AFAIK Symantec was paid for lack of detection. Another example: latest Kaspersky scam.
– kakaz
Jan 10 '18 at 8:05