Thinking of running E85 to clean my Corvette valves, pistons and heads
I'm pretty sure that I have built up carbon deposits in my 1986 corvette convertible with aluminum heads. I get noticeable pinging when hot and accelerating even with 93 octane gas.
My plan is to gradually mix in some E85 gas (since I already have E10) to bump it up to perhaps E35 to both increase the octane rating and to clean up my engine combustion chamber, valves, fuel injectors and pistons. This would be only maybe one tank full. The racers swear by E85 because it runs cool and keeps the engines really clean. I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
I understand that this may change my tuning but would it make it bad enough where it wouldn't run? Hoping to find E85 enthusiast to chime in.
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I'm pretty sure that I have built up carbon deposits in my 1986 corvette convertible with aluminum heads. I get noticeable pinging when hot and accelerating even with 93 octane gas.
My plan is to gradually mix in some E85 gas (since I already have E10) to bump it up to perhaps E35 to both increase the octane rating and to clean up my engine combustion chamber, valves, fuel injectors and pistons. This would be only maybe one tank full. The racers swear by E85 because it runs cool and keeps the engines really clean. I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
I understand that this may change my tuning but would it make it bad enough where it wouldn't run? Hoping to find E85 enthusiast to chime in.
chevrolet fuel-system fuel-injection corvette e85
Is the engine carbureted or electronic fuel injection?
– GdD
1 hour ago
The OP used the fuel injection tag. I'm assuming this Corvette has Tuned Port Injection (TPI) like most every Corvette in 89 had.
– Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2♦
1 hour ago
I saw the tag but I wanted to check because the OP lists it as an '86, not an '89. I'm not a 'vette expert but I didn't think FI was on the 86 models. Maybe it was added later.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Definitely tuned port fuel injection ... 2nd year corvettes had it.
– 3dalliance
17 mins ago
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I'm pretty sure that I have built up carbon deposits in my 1986 corvette convertible with aluminum heads. I get noticeable pinging when hot and accelerating even with 93 octane gas.
My plan is to gradually mix in some E85 gas (since I already have E10) to bump it up to perhaps E35 to both increase the octane rating and to clean up my engine combustion chamber, valves, fuel injectors and pistons. This would be only maybe one tank full. The racers swear by E85 because it runs cool and keeps the engines really clean. I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
I understand that this may change my tuning but would it make it bad enough where it wouldn't run? Hoping to find E85 enthusiast to chime in.
chevrolet fuel-system fuel-injection corvette e85
I'm pretty sure that I have built up carbon deposits in my 1986 corvette convertible with aluminum heads. I get noticeable pinging when hot and accelerating even with 93 octane gas.
My plan is to gradually mix in some E85 gas (since I already have E10) to bump it up to perhaps E35 to both increase the octane rating and to clean up my engine combustion chamber, valves, fuel injectors and pistons. This would be only maybe one tank full. The racers swear by E85 because it runs cool and keeps the engines really clean. I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
I understand that this may change my tuning but would it make it bad enough where it wouldn't run? Hoping to find E85 enthusiast to chime in.
chevrolet fuel-system fuel-injection corvette e85
chevrolet fuel-system fuel-injection corvette e85
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Is the engine carbureted or electronic fuel injection?
– GdD
1 hour ago
The OP used the fuel injection tag. I'm assuming this Corvette has Tuned Port Injection (TPI) like most every Corvette in 89 had.
– Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2♦
1 hour ago
I saw the tag but I wanted to check because the OP lists it as an '86, not an '89. I'm not a 'vette expert but I didn't think FI was on the 86 models. Maybe it was added later.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Definitely tuned port fuel injection ... 2nd year corvettes had it.
– 3dalliance
17 mins ago
add a comment |
Is the engine carbureted or electronic fuel injection?
– GdD
1 hour ago
The OP used the fuel injection tag. I'm assuming this Corvette has Tuned Port Injection (TPI) like most every Corvette in 89 had.
– Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2♦
1 hour ago
I saw the tag but I wanted to check because the OP lists it as an '86, not an '89. I'm not a 'vette expert but I didn't think FI was on the 86 models. Maybe it was added later.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Definitely tuned port fuel injection ... 2nd year corvettes had it.
– 3dalliance
17 mins ago
Is the engine carbureted or electronic fuel injection?
– GdD
1 hour ago
Is the engine carbureted or electronic fuel injection?
– GdD
1 hour ago
The OP used the fuel injection tag. I'm assuming this Corvette has Tuned Port Injection (TPI) like most every Corvette in 89 had.
– Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2♦
1 hour ago
The OP used the fuel injection tag. I'm assuming this Corvette has Tuned Port Injection (TPI) like most every Corvette in 89 had.
– Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2♦
1 hour ago
I saw the tag but I wanted to check because the OP lists it as an '86, not an '89. I'm not a 'vette expert but I didn't think FI was on the 86 models. Maybe it was added later.
– GdD
1 hour ago
I saw the tag but I wanted to check because the OP lists it as an '86, not an '89. I'm not a 'vette expert but I didn't think FI was on the 86 models. Maybe it was added later.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Definitely tuned port fuel injection ... 2nd year corvettes had it.
– 3dalliance
17 mins ago
Definitely tuned port fuel injection ... 2nd year corvettes had it.
– 3dalliance
17 mins ago
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There are several issues with what you are planning to do. If you haven't done so already, please read this answer I wrote about using E85 instead of non-E or E10 fuel.
While ethanol fuels do clean and have a higher octane rating, they also don't have the energy density of gasoline. To make it run stoich, you have to use more of it (higher ratio of fuel to air). If you dump enough ethanol fuel in your Corvette to even get it to E35, you still need more fuel than the computer can compensate for. In other words, you'll be running lean which will exacerbate your issue, causing more knocking/pinging and quite possibly damage.
I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
This is really poor advice. Ethanol is destructive to rubber parts. Even older vehicles can handle E10 and will not cause damage, though. Get above that and damage will occur. Just because you've been running E10 in it thus far does not mean higher concentrations of ethanol won't cause damage. The vehicle needs to handle the higher levels of ethanol or it will deteriorate.
Your best bet here is to figure out why it's knocking and fix the issue. Even if carbon buildup is the problem, there are better ways to get it cleaned out, such as fuel injector cleaner. High end products such as BG44K (no affiliation) may do the trick and will do it without damaging your fuel system. You could also do some data logging to see if the knock sensor is working correctly or if it's actually knock (or pre-ignition) which you're hearing.
Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
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There are several issues with what you are planning to do. If you haven't done so already, please read this answer I wrote about using E85 instead of non-E or E10 fuel.
While ethanol fuels do clean and have a higher octane rating, they also don't have the energy density of gasoline. To make it run stoich, you have to use more of it (higher ratio of fuel to air). If you dump enough ethanol fuel in your Corvette to even get it to E35, you still need more fuel than the computer can compensate for. In other words, you'll be running lean which will exacerbate your issue, causing more knocking/pinging and quite possibly damage.
I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
This is really poor advice. Ethanol is destructive to rubber parts. Even older vehicles can handle E10 and will not cause damage, though. Get above that and damage will occur. Just because you've been running E10 in it thus far does not mean higher concentrations of ethanol won't cause damage. The vehicle needs to handle the higher levels of ethanol or it will deteriorate.
Your best bet here is to figure out why it's knocking and fix the issue. Even if carbon buildup is the problem, there are better ways to get it cleaned out, such as fuel injector cleaner. High end products such as BG44K (no affiliation) may do the trick and will do it without damaging your fuel system. You could also do some data logging to see if the knock sensor is working correctly or if it's actually knock (or pre-ignition) which you're hearing.
Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
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There are several issues with what you are planning to do. If you haven't done so already, please read this answer I wrote about using E85 instead of non-E or E10 fuel.
While ethanol fuels do clean and have a higher octane rating, they also don't have the energy density of gasoline. To make it run stoich, you have to use more of it (higher ratio of fuel to air). If you dump enough ethanol fuel in your Corvette to even get it to E35, you still need more fuel than the computer can compensate for. In other words, you'll be running lean which will exacerbate your issue, causing more knocking/pinging and quite possibly damage.
I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
This is really poor advice. Ethanol is destructive to rubber parts. Even older vehicles can handle E10 and will not cause damage, though. Get above that and damage will occur. Just because you've been running E10 in it thus far does not mean higher concentrations of ethanol won't cause damage. The vehicle needs to handle the higher levels of ethanol or it will deteriorate.
Your best bet here is to figure out why it's knocking and fix the issue. Even if carbon buildup is the problem, there are better ways to get it cleaned out, such as fuel injector cleaner. High end products such as BG44K (no affiliation) may do the trick and will do it without damaging your fuel system. You could also do some data logging to see if the knock sensor is working correctly or if it's actually knock (or pre-ignition) which you're hearing.
Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
add a comment |
There are several issues with what you are planning to do. If you haven't done so already, please read this answer I wrote about using E85 instead of non-E or E10 fuel.
While ethanol fuels do clean and have a higher octane rating, they also don't have the energy density of gasoline. To make it run stoich, you have to use more of it (higher ratio of fuel to air). If you dump enough ethanol fuel in your Corvette to even get it to E35, you still need more fuel than the computer can compensate for. In other words, you'll be running lean which will exacerbate your issue, causing more knocking/pinging and quite possibly damage.
I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
This is really poor advice. Ethanol is destructive to rubber parts. Even older vehicles can handle E10 and will not cause damage, though. Get above that and damage will occur. Just because you've been running E10 in it thus far does not mean higher concentrations of ethanol won't cause damage. The vehicle needs to handle the higher levels of ethanol or it will deteriorate.
Your best bet here is to figure out why it's knocking and fix the issue. Even if carbon buildup is the problem, there are better ways to get it cleaned out, such as fuel injector cleaner. High end products such as BG44K (no affiliation) may do the trick and will do it without damaging your fuel system. You could also do some data logging to see if the knock sensor is working correctly or if it's actually knock (or pre-ignition) which you're hearing.
There are several issues with what you are planning to do. If you haven't done so already, please read this answer I wrote about using E85 instead of non-E or E10 fuel.
While ethanol fuels do clean and have a higher octane rating, they also don't have the energy density of gasoline. To make it run stoich, you have to use more of it (higher ratio of fuel to air). If you dump enough ethanol fuel in your Corvette to even get it to E35, you still need more fuel than the computer can compensate for. In other words, you'll be running lean which will exacerbate your issue, causing more knocking/pinging and quite possibly damage.
I've been told that the E10 already would have affected any parts that might dissolve and I have been running E10 for 10 years and no rubber problems.
This is really poor advice. Ethanol is destructive to rubber parts. Even older vehicles can handle E10 and will not cause damage, though. Get above that and damage will occur. Just because you've been running E10 in it thus far does not mean higher concentrations of ethanol won't cause damage. The vehicle needs to handle the higher levels of ethanol or it will deteriorate.
Your best bet here is to figure out why it's knocking and fix the issue. Even if carbon buildup is the problem, there are better ways to get it cleaned out, such as fuel injector cleaner. High end products such as BG44K (no affiliation) may do the trick and will do it without damaging your fuel system. You could also do some data logging to see if the knock sensor is working correctly or if it's actually knock (or pre-ignition) which you're hearing.
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Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Good advice here, running E85 would likely require modifications or at least substantial tuning which would cost time and money, possibly making it impossible to run E10 again without spending more to change it back. Then you could find out you still have knocking, or whatever the problem is. A good fuel system cleaner and some diagnostics would be a much better choice.
– GdD
1 hour ago
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Is the engine carbureted or electronic fuel injection?
– GdD
1 hour ago
The OP used the fuel injection tag. I'm assuming this Corvette has Tuned Port Injection (TPI) like most every Corvette in 89 had.
– Pᴀᴜʟsᴛᴇʀ2♦
1 hour ago
I saw the tag but I wanted to check because the OP lists it as an '86, not an '89. I'm not a 'vette expert but I didn't think FI was on the 86 models. Maybe it was added later.
– GdD
1 hour ago
Definitely tuned port fuel injection ... 2nd year corvettes had it.
– 3dalliance
17 mins ago