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Suppose that we consider English alphabets so we have 26 letters which 5 of them are vowels. I want to find all three letters sequences that contain at least one vowel.



My first approach is $26^3-21^3=8315$ which is the number of all three lettres sequences minus the number of three letter sequences which do not contain vowels.



Second approach: at least one vowel means one vowel or two vowels or three vowels so the answer is $(5cdot21^2)+(5^2cdot21)+5^3=2855$.



Why are these two answers different?






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    Suppose that we consider English alphabets so we have 26 letters which 5 of them are vowels. I want to find all three letters sequences that contain at least one vowel.



    My first approach is $26^3-21^3=8315$ which is the number of all three lettres sequences minus the number of three letter sequences which do not contain vowels.



    Second approach: at least one vowel means one vowel or two vowels or three vowels so the answer is $(5cdot21^2)+(5^2cdot21)+5^3=2855$.



    Why are these two answers different?






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      Suppose that we consider English alphabets so we have 26 letters which 5 of them are vowels. I want to find all three letters sequences that contain at least one vowel.



      My first approach is $26^3-21^3=8315$ which is the number of all three lettres sequences minus the number of three letter sequences which do not contain vowels.



      Second approach: at least one vowel means one vowel or two vowels or three vowels so the answer is $(5cdot21^2)+(5^2cdot21)+5^3=2855$.



      Why are these two answers different?






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      Suppose that we consider English alphabets so we have 26 letters which 5 of them are vowels. I want to find all three letters sequences that contain at least one vowel.



      My first approach is $26^3-21^3=8315$ which is the number of all three lettres sequences minus the number of three letter sequences which do not contain vowels.



      Second approach: at least one vowel means one vowel or two vowels or three vowels so the answer is $(5cdot21^2)+(5^2cdot21)+5^3=2855$.



      Why are these two answers different?






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          Take the number of all three letter words ($26^3$) and subtract from it the number that have only consonants ($21^3$).



          Your second method does not address all possible sequences of vowels, such as vowel-consonant-vowel or vowel-vowel-consonant or consonant-vowel-vowel.






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          It is worth noting that to count properly with the second approach, you would have to write $$3 cdot 5 cdot 21^2 + 3 cdot 5^2 cdot 21 + 5^3 = 8315.$$ The first term counts all cases where there is exactly one vowel, and there are three positions for the location of this vowel. The second term counts all cases where there are exactly two vowels, and there are three positions for the location of the sole consonant. The third term counts all cases where there are exactly three vowels, but we do not multiply by three because all three letters are of the same type. You only have to consider the ordering of the types of letters (vowel vs. consonant) when there is more than one type of letter used.






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            Refer to Binomial Expansion



            $$(21+5)^3=21^3+tbinom 31cdotp 21^2cdotp5+tbinom 32cdotp21cdotp 5^2+5^3$$



            so$$26^3-21^3= (3cdot21^2cdotp 5)+(3cdot21cdotp 5^2)+5^3$$



            The binomial coefficients count the ways to select elements from a set.



            In your case, that is positions to place the vowels in the word.



            There are $3cdot21^2cdotp 5$ ways to select 1 vowels and two consonants where the vowel is in the first, second, or third place. And so on.






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              Take the number of all three letter words ($26^3$) and subtract from it the number that have only consonants ($21^3$).



              Your second method does not address all possible sequences of vowels, such as vowel-consonant-vowel or vowel-vowel-consonant or consonant-vowel-vowel.






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              Take the number of all three letter words ($26^3$) and subtract from it the number that have only consonants ($21^3$).



              Your second method does not address all possible sequences of vowels, such as vowel-consonant-vowel or vowel-vowel-consonant or consonant-vowel-vowel.






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              Take the number of all three letter words ($26^3$) and subtract from it the number that have only consonants ($21^3$).



              Your second method does not address all possible sequences of vowels, such as vowel-consonant-vowel or vowel-vowel-consonant or consonant-vowel-vowel.






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              Take the number of all three letter words ($26^3$) and subtract from it the number that have only consonants ($21^3$).



              Your second method does not address all possible sequences of vowels, such as vowel-consonant-vowel or vowel-vowel-consonant or consonant-vowel-vowel.







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              I get it. Thanks so much
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              It is worth noting that to count properly with the second approach, you would have to write $$3 cdot 5 cdot 21^2 + 3 cdot 5^2 cdot 21 + 5^3 = 8315.$$ The first term counts all cases where there is exactly one vowel, and there are three positions for the location of this vowel. The second term counts all cases where there are exactly two vowels, and there are three positions for the location of the sole consonant. The third term counts all cases where there are exactly three vowels, but we do not multiply by three because all three letters are of the same type. You only have to consider the ordering of the types of letters (vowel vs. consonant) when there is more than one type of letter used.






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                It is worth noting that to count properly with the second approach, you would have to write $$3 cdot 5 cdot 21^2 + 3 cdot 5^2 cdot 21 + 5^3 = 8315.$$ The first term counts all cases where there is exactly one vowel, and there are three positions for the location of this vowel. The second term counts all cases where there are exactly two vowels, and there are three positions for the location of the sole consonant. The third term counts all cases where there are exactly three vowels, but we do not multiply by three because all three letters are of the same type. You only have to consider the ordering of the types of letters (vowel vs. consonant) when there is more than one type of letter used.






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                  It is worth noting that to count properly with the second approach, you would have to write $$3 cdot 5 cdot 21^2 + 3 cdot 5^2 cdot 21 + 5^3 = 8315.$$ The first term counts all cases where there is exactly one vowel, and there are three positions for the location of this vowel. The second term counts all cases where there are exactly two vowels, and there are three positions for the location of the sole consonant. The third term counts all cases where there are exactly three vowels, but we do not multiply by three because all three letters are of the same type. You only have to consider the ordering of the types of letters (vowel vs. consonant) when there is more than one type of letter used.






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                  It is worth noting that to count properly with the second approach, you would have to write $$3 cdot 5 cdot 21^2 + 3 cdot 5^2 cdot 21 + 5^3 = 8315.$$ The first term counts all cases where there is exactly one vowel, and there are three positions for the location of this vowel. The second term counts all cases where there are exactly two vowels, and there are three positions for the location of the sole consonant. The third term counts all cases where there are exactly three vowels, but we do not multiply by three because all three letters are of the same type. You only have to consider the ordering of the types of letters (vowel vs. consonant) when there is more than one type of letter used.







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                      Refer to Binomial Expansion



                      $$(21+5)^3=21^3+tbinom 31cdotp 21^2cdotp5+tbinom 32cdotp21cdotp 5^2+5^3$$



                      so$$26^3-21^3= (3cdot21^2cdotp 5)+(3cdot21cdotp 5^2)+5^3$$



                      The binomial coefficients count the ways to select elements from a set.



                      In your case, that is positions to place the vowels in the word.



                      There are $3cdot21^2cdotp 5$ ways to select 1 vowels and two consonants where the vowel is in the first, second, or third place. And so on.






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                        Refer to Binomial Expansion



                        $$(21+5)^3=21^3+tbinom 31cdotp 21^2cdotp5+tbinom 32cdotp21cdotp 5^2+5^3$$



                        so$$26^3-21^3= (3cdot21^2cdotp 5)+(3cdot21cdotp 5^2)+5^3$$



                        The binomial coefficients count the ways to select elements from a set.



                        In your case, that is positions to place the vowels in the word.



                        There are $3cdot21^2cdotp 5$ ways to select 1 vowels and two consonants where the vowel is in the first, second, or third place. And so on.






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                          Refer to Binomial Expansion



                          $$(21+5)^3=21^3+tbinom 31cdotp 21^2cdotp5+tbinom 32cdotp21cdotp 5^2+5^3$$



                          so$$26^3-21^3= (3cdot21^2cdotp 5)+(3cdot21cdotp 5^2)+5^3$$



                          The binomial coefficients count the ways to select elements from a set.



                          In your case, that is positions to place the vowels in the word.



                          There are $3cdot21^2cdotp 5$ ways to select 1 vowels and two consonants where the vowel is in the first, second, or third place. And so on.






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                          Refer to Binomial Expansion



                          $$(21+5)^3=21^3+tbinom 31cdotp 21^2cdotp5+tbinom 32cdotp21cdotp 5^2+5^3$$



                          so$$26^3-21^3= (3cdot21^2cdotp 5)+(3cdot21cdotp 5^2)+5^3$$



                          The binomial coefficients count the ways to select elements from a set.



                          In your case, that is positions to place the vowels in the word.



                          There are $3cdot21^2cdotp 5$ ways to select 1 vowels and two consonants where the vowel is in the first, second, or third place. And so on.







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