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So I was interested in the following function's domain:



$$f_n(x)=sqrt{1-sqrt{2-sqrt{3-{sqrt{...-sqrt{n-x}}}}}}$$



So I started just looking at small values of $n$ and seeing the lengths of the domains and the actual domains themselves.



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}=(-infty,1]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}|=infty$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}=[1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}|=1$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}=[-1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}|=3$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}=[0,4]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}|=4$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}=[-11,5]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}|=16$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}=[-19,6]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}|=25$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}=[-29,7]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}|=36$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}=[-41,8]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}|=49$$



$$operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}=[-55,9]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}|=64$$



So outside the first couple of upper bound values, it seems then that the upper bounds of the domain of $f_n(x)$ is $n$ itself while the length of the domain seems to be $(n-1)^2$.



I looked up the sequence of upper bounds in the OEIS and there was no pattern associated with it and so I wondered if there was a closed form for the upper bound of $f_n(x)$ and same for the length. Looking up the sequence ${1,3,4,16,25,36,49,64,...}$ in OEIS gives no resultant pattern, and again was wondering if there is a closed form expression for the length of the domain of $f_n(x)$.



Is there a better approach to determining a sequence of upper and lower bounds for this function and is there a more rigorous way to determine exactly the domain of the $n$th function?










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    So I was interested in the following function's domain:



    $$f_n(x)=sqrt{1-sqrt{2-sqrt{3-{sqrt{...-sqrt{n-x}}}}}}$$



    So I started just looking at small values of $n$ and seeing the lengths of the domains and the actual domains themselves.



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}=(-infty,1]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}|=infty$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}=[1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}|=1$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}=[-1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}|=3$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}=[0,4]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}|=4$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}=[-11,5]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}|=16$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}=[-19,6]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}|=25$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}=[-29,7]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}|=36$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}=[-41,8]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}|=49$$



    $$operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}=[-55,9]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}|=64$$



    So outside the first couple of upper bound values, it seems then that the upper bounds of the domain of $f_n(x)$ is $n$ itself while the length of the domain seems to be $(n-1)^2$.



    I looked up the sequence of upper bounds in the OEIS and there was no pattern associated with it and so I wondered if there was a closed form for the upper bound of $f_n(x)$ and same for the length. Looking up the sequence ${1,3,4,16,25,36,49,64,...}$ in OEIS gives no resultant pattern, and again was wondering if there is a closed form expression for the length of the domain of $f_n(x)$.



    Is there a better approach to determining a sequence of upper and lower bounds for this function and is there a more rigorous way to determine exactly the domain of the $n$th function?










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      So I was interested in the following function's domain:



      $$f_n(x)=sqrt{1-sqrt{2-sqrt{3-{sqrt{...-sqrt{n-x}}}}}}$$



      So I started just looking at small values of $n$ and seeing the lengths of the domains and the actual domains themselves.



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}=(-infty,1]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}|=infty$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}=[1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}|=1$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}=[-1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}|=3$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}=[0,4]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}|=4$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}=[-11,5]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}|=16$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}=[-19,6]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}|=25$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}=[-29,7]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}|=36$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}=[-41,8]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}|=49$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}=[-55,9]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}|=64$$



      So outside the first couple of upper bound values, it seems then that the upper bounds of the domain of $f_n(x)$ is $n$ itself while the length of the domain seems to be $(n-1)^2$.



      I looked up the sequence of upper bounds in the OEIS and there was no pattern associated with it and so I wondered if there was a closed form for the upper bound of $f_n(x)$ and same for the length. Looking up the sequence ${1,3,4,16,25,36,49,64,...}$ in OEIS gives no resultant pattern, and again was wondering if there is a closed form expression for the length of the domain of $f_n(x)$.



      Is there a better approach to determining a sequence of upper and lower bounds for this function and is there a more rigorous way to determine exactly the domain of the $n$th function?










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      So I was interested in the following function's domain:



      $$f_n(x)=sqrt{1-sqrt{2-sqrt{3-{sqrt{...-sqrt{n-x}}}}}}$$



      So I started just looking at small values of $n$ and seeing the lengths of the domains and the actual domains themselves.



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}=(-infty,1]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_1(x)]}}|=infty$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}=[1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_2(x)]}}|=1$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}=[-1,2]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_3(x)]}}|=3$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}=[0,4]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_4(x)]}}|=4$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}=[-11,5]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_5(x)]}}|=16$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}=[-19,6]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_6(x)]}}|=25$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}=[-29,7]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_7(x)]}}|=36$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}=[-41,8]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_8(x)]}}|=49$$



      $$operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}=[-55,9]rightarrow |operatorname{Dom{[f_9(x)]}}|=64$$



      So outside the first couple of upper bound values, it seems then that the upper bounds of the domain of $f_n(x)$ is $n$ itself while the length of the domain seems to be $(n-1)^2$.



      I looked up the sequence of upper bounds in the OEIS and there was no pattern associated with it and so I wondered if there was a closed form for the upper bound of $f_n(x)$ and same for the length. Looking up the sequence ${1,3,4,16,25,36,49,64,...}$ in OEIS gives no resultant pattern, and again was wondering if there is a closed form expression for the length of the domain of $f_n(x)$.



      Is there a better approach to determining a sequence of upper and lower bounds for this function and is there a more rigorous way to determine exactly the domain of the $n$th function?







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          EDIT: There was an error in my original solution, I incorrectly said the Domain was (for $n ge 5$)



          $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-n^2,n]$$



          when the right answer is



          $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



          It doesn't change the nature of the proof, but I've corrected it below.





          Once can prove with mathematical induction that



          $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



          holds for $nge 5$.



          They key idea is the recursion



          $$f_{n+1}(x) = f_n(sqrt{n+1-x}).$$



          That means in order to determine $text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)]$, we must determine when $sqrt{n+1-x}$ is defined and when $sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]$.



          That means



          $$text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)] = (-infty,n+1] cap {x: sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]}$$



          This formula, starting with the known $text{Dom}[f_1]=(-infty,1]$, generates the sequence as given in the question. It is easy to check by hand that the given sequence is correct for $n=1,2,3,4$ and $5$. This proves the start of the inductive process ($n=5$).



          Now to the inductive step:
          Assume the forumula is correct for $n=k$. We now know that



          $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)] = (-infty,k+1] cap {x: sqrt{k+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_k(x)]}$$



          By the induction hypothesis $text{Dom}[f_k(x)]=[k-(k-1)^2,k]$. Since $kge 5$, we have $k-(k-1)^2 le 0$. That means $sqrt{k+1-x} in [k-(k-1)^2,k]$ is equivalent to



          $$sqrt{k+1-x} le k$$



          which is equivalent to



          $$ 0 le k+1-x le k^2$$



          which is equivalent to



          $$(k+1)-(k+1-1)^2= -k^2+k+1 le x le k+1$$



          Since $[-k^2+k+1,k+1] subset (-infty,k+1]$, we proved what we wanted to prove in the induction step:



          $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)]=[(k+1)-k^2,k+1]$$






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            The straightforward approach is to let $x_0 = x$ and $x_{k+1} = sqrt{n-k - x_k}$ for all $0 le k < n$. Then $x_n = f_n(x)$ is the desired quantity. It is defined if and only if $x_k le n-k$ for all $k ge 0$. By the recursion, all but the first case are equivalent to $sqrt{n-k - x_k} le n-k-1$ i.e. $$x_k ge n-k - (n-k-1)^2 tag{*}$$ for all $k ge 0$.
            In particular, $n - (n-1)^2 le x le n$ for $k = 0$.



            It remains to show that if $x$ is in this range, then every $x_k$ satisfies $(*)$. Can you go from here? I've got to run, but I'll be back later to update my answer if necessary.



            Update: This actually doesn't seem to be very straightforward. Ingix's solution is much better!






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              EDIT: There was an error in my original solution, I incorrectly said the Domain was (for $n ge 5$)



              $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-n^2,n]$$



              when the right answer is



              $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



              It doesn't change the nature of the proof, but I've corrected it below.





              Once can prove with mathematical induction that



              $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



              holds for $nge 5$.



              They key idea is the recursion



              $$f_{n+1}(x) = f_n(sqrt{n+1-x}).$$



              That means in order to determine $text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)]$, we must determine when $sqrt{n+1-x}$ is defined and when $sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]$.



              That means



              $$text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)] = (-infty,n+1] cap {x: sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]}$$



              This formula, starting with the known $text{Dom}[f_1]=(-infty,1]$, generates the sequence as given in the question. It is easy to check by hand that the given sequence is correct for $n=1,2,3,4$ and $5$. This proves the start of the inductive process ($n=5$).



              Now to the inductive step:
              Assume the forumula is correct for $n=k$. We now know that



              $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)] = (-infty,k+1] cap {x: sqrt{k+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_k(x)]}$$



              By the induction hypothesis $text{Dom}[f_k(x)]=[k-(k-1)^2,k]$. Since $kge 5$, we have $k-(k-1)^2 le 0$. That means $sqrt{k+1-x} in [k-(k-1)^2,k]$ is equivalent to



              $$sqrt{k+1-x} le k$$



              which is equivalent to



              $$ 0 le k+1-x le k^2$$



              which is equivalent to



              $$(k+1)-(k+1-1)^2= -k^2+k+1 le x le k+1$$



              Since $[-k^2+k+1,k+1] subset (-infty,k+1]$, we proved what we wanted to prove in the induction step:



              $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)]=[(k+1)-k^2,k+1]$$






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                EDIT: There was an error in my original solution, I incorrectly said the Domain was (for $n ge 5$)



                $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-n^2,n]$$



                when the right answer is



                $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



                It doesn't change the nature of the proof, but I've corrected it below.





                Once can prove with mathematical induction that



                $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



                holds for $nge 5$.



                They key idea is the recursion



                $$f_{n+1}(x) = f_n(sqrt{n+1-x}).$$



                That means in order to determine $text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)]$, we must determine when $sqrt{n+1-x}$ is defined and when $sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]$.



                That means



                $$text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)] = (-infty,n+1] cap {x: sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]}$$



                This formula, starting with the known $text{Dom}[f_1]=(-infty,1]$, generates the sequence as given in the question. It is easy to check by hand that the given sequence is correct for $n=1,2,3,4$ and $5$. This proves the start of the inductive process ($n=5$).



                Now to the inductive step:
                Assume the forumula is correct for $n=k$. We now know that



                $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)] = (-infty,k+1] cap {x: sqrt{k+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_k(x)]}$$



                By the induction hypothesis $text{Dom}[f_k(x)]=[k-(k-1)^2,k]$. Since $kge 5$, we have $k-(k-1)^2 le 0$. That means $sqrt{k+1-x} in [k-(k-1)^2,k]$ is equivalent to



                $$sqrt{k+1-x} le k$$



                which is equivalent to



                $$ 0 le k+1-x le k^2$$



                which is equivalent to



                $$(k+1)-(k+1-1)^2= -k^2+k+1 le x le k+1$$



                Since $[-k^2+k+1,k+1] subset (-infty,k+1]$, we proved what we wanted to prove in the induction step:



                $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)]=[(k+1)-k^2,k+1]$$






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                  EDIT: There was an error in my original solution, I incorrectly said the Domain was (for $n ge 5$)



                  $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-n^2,n]$$



                  when the right answer is



                  $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



                  It doesn't change the nature of the proof, but I've corrected it below.





                  Once can prove with mathematical induction that



                  $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



                  holds for $nge 5$.



                  They key idea is the recursion



                  $$f_{n+1}(x) = f_n(sqrt{n+1-x}).$$



                  That means in order to determine $text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)]$, we must determine when $sqrt{n+1-x}$ is defined and when $sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]$.



                  That means



                  $$text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)] = (-infty,n+1] cap {x: sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]}$$



                  This formula, starting with the known $text{Dom}[f_1]=(-infty,1]$, generates the sequence as given in the question. It is easy to check by hand that the given sequence is correct for $n=1,2,3,4$ and $5$. This proves the start of the inductive process ($n=5$).



                  Now to the inductive step:
                  Assume the forumula is correct for $n=k$. We now know that



                  $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)] = (-infty,k+1] cap {x: sqrt{k+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_k(x)]}$$



                  By the induction hypothesis $text{Dom}[f_k(x)]=[k-(k-1)^2,k]$. Since $kge 5$, we have $k-(k-1)^2 le 0$. That means $sqrt{k+1-x} in [k-(k-1)^2,k]$ is equivalent to



                  $$sqrt{k+1-x} le k$$



                  which is equivalent to



                  $$ 0 le k+1-x le k^2$$



                  which is equivalent to



                  $$(k+1)-(k+1-1)^2= -k^2+k+1 le x le k+1$$



                  Since $[-k^2+k+1,k+1] subset (-infty,k+1]$, we proved what we wanted to prove in the induction step:



                  $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)]=[(k+1)-k^2,k+1]$$






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                  EDIT: There was an error in my original solution, I incorrectly said the Domain was (for $n ge 5$)



                  $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-n^2,n]$$



                  when the right answer is



                  $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



                  It doesn't change the nature of the proof, but I've corrected it below.





                  Once can prove with mathematical induction that



                  $$text{Dom}[f_n(x)] = [n-(n-1)^2,n]$$



                  holds for $nge 5$.



                  They key idea is the recursion



                  $$f_{n+1}(x) = f_n(sqrt{n+1-x}).$$



                  That means in order to determine $text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)]$, we must determine when $sqrt{n+1-x}$ is defined and when $sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]$.



                  That means



                  $$text{Dom}[f_{n+1}(x)] = (-infty,n+1] cap {x: sqrt{n+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_{n}(x)]}$$



                  This formula, starting with the known $text{Dom}[f_1]=(-infty,1]$, generates the sequence as given in the question. It is easy to check by hand that the given sequence is correct for $n=1,2,3,4$ and $5$. This proves the start of the inductive process ($n=5$).



                  Now to the inductive step:
                  Assume the forumula is correct for $n=k$. We now know that



                  $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)] = (-infty,k+1] cap {x: sqrt{k+1-x} in text{Dom}[f_k(x)]}$$



                  By the induction hypothesis $text{Dom}[f_k(x)]=[k-(k-1)^2,k]$. Since $kge 5$, we have $k-(k-1)^2 le 0$. That means $sqrt{k+1-x} in [k-(k-1)^2,k]$ is equivalent to



                  $$sqrt{k+1-x} le k$$



                  which is equivalent to



                  $$ 0 le k+1-x le k^2$$



                  which is equivalent to



                  $$(k+1)-(k+1-1)^2= -k^2+k+1 le x le k+1$$



                  Since $[-k^2+k+1,k+1] subset (-infty,k+1]$, we proved what we wanted to prove in the induction step:



                  $$text{Dom}[f_{k+1}(x)]=[(k+1)-k^2,k+1]$$







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                      The straightforward approach is to let $x_0 = x$ and $x_{k+1} = sqrt{n-k - x_k}$ for all $0 le k < n$. Then $x_n = f_n(x)$ is the desired quantity. It is defined if and only if $x_k le n-k$ for all $k ge 0$. By the recursion, all but the first case are equivalent to $sqrt{n-k - x_k} le n-k-1$ i.e. $$x_k ge n-k - (n-k-1)^2 tag{*}$$ for all $k ge 0$.
                      In particular, $n - (n-1)^2 le x le n$ for $k = 0$.



                      It remains to show that if $x$ is in this range, then every $x_k$ satisfies $(*)$. Can you go from here? I've got to run, but I'll be back later to update my answer if necessary.



                      Update: This actually doesn't seem to be very straightforward. Ingix's solution is much better!






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                        The straightforward approach is to let $x_0 = x$ and $x_{k+1} = sqrt{n-k - x_k}$ for all $0 le k < n$. Then $x_n = f_n(x)$ is the desired quantity. It is defined if and only if $x_k le n-k$ for all $k ge 0$. By the recursion, all but the first case are equivalent to $sqrt{n-k - x_k} le n-k-1$ i.e. $$x_k ge n-k - (n-k-1)^2 tag{*}$$ for all $k ge 0$.
                        In particular, $n - (n-1)^2 le x le n$ for $k = 0$.



                        It remains to show that if $x$ is in this range, then every $x_k$ satisfies $(*)$. Can you go from here? I've got to run, but I'll be back later to update my answer if necessary.



                        Update: This actually doesn't seem to be very straightforward. Ingix's solution is much better!






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                          The straightforward approach is to let $x_0 = x$ and $x_{k+1} = sqrt{n-k - x_k}$ for all $0 le k < n$. Then $x_n = f_n(x)$ is the desired quantity. It is defined if and only if $x_k le n-k$ for all $k ge 0$. By the recursion, all but the first case are equivalent to $sqrt{n-k - x_k} le n-k-1$ i.e. $$x_k ge n-k - (n-k-1)^2 tag{*}$$ for all $k ge 0$.
                          In particular, $n - (n-1)^2 le x le n$ for $k = 0$.



                          It remains to show that if $x$ is in this range, then every $x_k$ satisfies $(*)$. Can you go from here? I've got to run, but I'll be back later to update my answer if necessary.



                          Update: This actually doesn't seem to be very straightforward. Ingix's solution is much better!






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                          The straightforward approach is to let $x_0 = x$ and $x_{k+1} = sqrt{n-k - x_k}$ for all $0 le k < n$. Then $x_n = f_n(x)$ is the desired quantity. It is defined if and only if $x_k le n-k$ for all $k ge 0$. By the recursion, all but the first case are equivalent to $sqrt{n-k - x_k} le n-k-1$ i.e. $$x_k ge n-k - (n-k-1)^2 tag{*}$$ for all $k ge 0$.
                          In particular, $n - (n-1)^2 le x le n$ for $k = 0$.



                          It remains to show that if $x$ is in this range, then every $x_k$ satisfies $(*)$. Can you go from here? I've got to run, but I'll be back later to update my answer if necessary.



                          Update: This actually doesn't seem to be very straightforward. Ingix's solution is much better!







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