Are dual Irish/British citizens bound by the 90/180 day rule when travelling in the EU after Brexit?
I have dual citizenship - Irish/British - and have passports for both countries.
Am I bound by the 90/180 day rule when travelling in the EU after Brexit?
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I have dual citizenship - Irish/British - and have passports for both countries.
Am I bound by the 90/180 day rule when travelling in the EU after Brexit?
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You are an Irish citizen, why would you not be allowed to stay in the EU as long as without Brexit?
– Willeke♦
5 hours ago
@Willeke If you're an EU citizen, you can stay as long as you like. If you're a post-Brexit British citizen, you can only stay as long as you're allowed. Unless you know the answer, it's not obvious what happens if you're both of the above.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@DavidRicherby Unless there's a no-deal Brexit, which sadly I doubt will happen, British citizens will retain full EU rights until 2021
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
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I have dual citizenship - Irish/British - and have passports for both countries.
Am I bound by the 90/180 day rule when travelling in the EU after Brexit?
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I have dual citizenship - Irish/British - and have passports for both countries.
Am I bound by the 90/180 day rule when travelling in the EU after Brexit?
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You are an Irish citizen, why would you not be allowed to stay in the EU as long as without Brexit?
– Willeke♦
5 hours ago
@Willeke If you're an EU citizen, you can stay as long as you like. If you're a post-Brexit British citizen, you can only stay as long as you're allowed. Unless you know the answer, it's not obvious what happens if you're both of the above.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@DavidRicherby Unless there's a no-deal Brexit, which sadly I doubt will happen, British citizens will retain full EU rights until 2021
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
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You are an Irish citizen, why would you not be allowed to stay in the EU as long as without Brexit?
– Willeke♦
5 hours ago
@Willeke If you're an EU citizen, you can stay as long as you like. If you're a post-Brexit British citizen, you can only stay as long as you're allowed. Unless you know the answer, it's not obvious what happens if you're both of the above.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@DavidRicherby Unless there's a no-deal Brexit, which sadly I doubt will happen, British citizens will retain full EU rights until 2021
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
2
2
You are an Irish citizen, why would you not be allowed to stay in the EU as long as without Brexit?
– Willeke♦
5 hours ago
You are an Irish citizen, why would you not be allowed to stay in the EU as long as without Brexit?
– Willeke♦
5 hours ago
@Willeke If you're an EU citizen, you can stay as long as you like. If you're a post-Brexit British citizen, you can only stay as long as you're allowed. Unless you know the answer, it's not obvious what happens if you're both of the above.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@Willeke If you're an EU citizen, you can stay as long as you like. If you're a post-Brexit British citizen, you can only stay as long as you're allowed. Unless you know the answer, it's not obvious what happens if you're both of the above.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@DavidRicherby Unless there's a no-deal Brexit, which sadly I doubt will happen, British citizens will retain full EU rights until 2021
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
@DavidRicherby Unless there's a no-deal Brexit, which sadly I doubt will happen, British citizens will retain full EU rights until 2021
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
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Because of your dual citizenship, you are in the position of being able to effectively ignore the border control aspects of Brexit. No matter what happens, you will still have the right to enter both the UK and the EU without restrictions.
The only thing that could change this is if Ireland chooses to leave the EU, too. This does not seem likely at this point.
@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
1
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
2
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
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Even after Brexit, you will be an EU citizen because of your Irish citizenship, so you have all the rights that an EU citizen has. When you enter the EU, you should do so using your Irish passport. There are more details in the answers to our reference question about using two passports.
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Because of your dual citizenship, you are in the position of being able to effectively ignore the border control aspects of Brexit. No matter what happens, you will still have the right to enter both the UK and the EU without restrictions.
The only thing that could change this is if Ireland chooses to leave the EU, too. This does not seem likely at this point.
@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
1
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
2
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
|
show 5 more comments
Because of your dual citizenship, you are in the position of being able to effectively ignore the border control aspects of Brexit. No matter what happens, you will still have the right to enter both the UK and the EU without restrictions.
The only thing that could change this is if Ireland chooses to leave the EU, too. This does not seem likely at this point.
@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
1
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
2
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
|
show 5 more comments
Because of your dual citizenship, you are in the position of being able to effectively ignore the border control aspects of Brexit. No matter what happens, you will still have the right to enter both the UK and the EU without restrictions.
The only thing that could change this is if Ireland chooses to leave the EU, too. This does not seem likely at this point.
Because of your dual citizenship, you are in the position of being able to effectively ignore the border control aspects of Brexit. No matter what happens, you will still have the right to enter both the UK and the EU without restrictions.
The only thing that could change this is if Ireland chooses to leave the EU, too. This does not seem likely at this point.
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@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
1
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
2
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
|
show 5 more comments
@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
1
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
2
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
@Mehrdad Why? Only the Irish one is needed
– Crazydre
2 hours ago
1
1
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
Based on the Common-Travel Area - someone on an Irish passport can enter and leave the UK independent of the EU Freedom of Movement: After a ‘no deal’ Brexit on 29 March 2019 If you are an Irish citizen you will continue to have the right to enter and remain in the UK, as now. You are not required to do anything to protect your status. Link
– Paddez
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad yes. Irish citizens have slightly greater rights in the UK than other EU citizens. These rights existed for decades before the UK and Ireland joined (the predecessor of) the EU. British immigration law has been (or perhaps is still being) amended to preserve these rights after Brexit. See for example gov.uk/government/publications/common-travel-area-guidance.
– phoog
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
@phoog: Interesting. I thought the whole Ireland border issue meant they couldn't do this, thanks for the correction!
– Mehrdad
1 hour ago
2
2
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
@Mehrdad: As I understand it, the big issue is border enforcement, which typically implies having to cross at official border crossings (and waiting at the checkpoint and so on). Even if every citizen of either country is guaranteed to be admitted at such a crossing, it nonetheless creates a lot of "friction".
– ruakh
1 hour ago
|
show 5 more comments
Even after Brexit, you will be an EU citizen because of your Irish citizenship, so you have all the rights that an EU citizen has. When you enter the EU, you should do so using your Irish passport. There are more details in the answers to our reference question about using two passports.
add a comment |
Even after Brexit, you will be an EU citizen because of your Irish citizenship, so you have all the rights that an EU citizen has. When you enter the EU, you should do so using your Irish passport. There are more details in the answers to our reference question about using two passports.
add a comment |
Even after Brexit, you will be an EU citizen because of your Irish citizenship, so you have all the rights that an EU citizen has. When you enter the EU, you should do so using your Irish passport. There are more details in the answers to our reference question about using two passports.
Even after Brexit, you will be an EU citizen because of your Irish citizenship, so you have all the rights that an EU citizen has. When you enter the EU, you should do so using your Irish passport. There are more details in the answers to our reference question about using two passports.
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You are an Irish citizen, why would you not be allowed to stay in the EU as long as without Brexit?
– Willeke♦
5 hours ago
@Willeke If you're an EU citizen, you can stay as long as you like. If you're a post-Brexit British citizen, you can only stay as long as you're allowed. Unless you know the answer, it's not obvious what happens if you're both of the above.
– David Richerby
3 hours ago
@DavidRicherby Unless there's a no-deal Brexit, which sadly I doubt will happen, British citizens will retain full EU rights until 2021
– Crazydre
2 hours ago