How to handle lack of talking by coworkers
I've been at my current job for a few months now, and the lack of conversation is starting to really bother me. Besides me, there are four other employees, and we all sit in the same open office area. My coworkers do not talk to me.. it's not just to me, they don't talk to each other except rarely about technical issues. We all work on separate projects so technical discussions are few and far between. I've tried to chat about mutual interests or the weather or lunch or commuting or ...anything. No one seems interested in any conversation. I've asked folks to get coffee or lunch and no one has agreed.
My problem is that I am a social person. I like to be able to bounce ideas off people when working on technical issues and I really thrive on social interaction. I have an active social life, date, and bartend a few nights a week. I'm not socially awkward, and people seem to enjoy chatting with me outside of my office. Heck, people on other teams talk with me. But at work, it's an eight hour stretch of isolation. The person I sit directly next to wears headphones all day so it's an imposition to ask them to discuss anything because they have to take off their earbuds any time we talk. So I've stopped trying. I can easily go an entire day without speaking a word to anyone on my team and it's driving me crazy!
Does anyone have any ideas? I am planning to look for a new job because I feel like I am in solitary confinement 8 hours a day. My last job was not like this, people chatted with each other and socialized. They stopped by my desk to run technical problems back and forth or just plain say hello.
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I've been at my current job for a few months now, and the lack of conversation is starting to really bother me. Besides me, there are four other employees, and we all sit in the same open office area. My coworkers do not talk to me.. it's not just to me, they don't talk to each other except rarely about technical issues. We all work on separate projects so technical discussions are few and far between. I've tried to chat about mutual interests or the weather or lunch or commuting or ...anything. No one seems interested in any conversation. I've asked folks to get coffee or lunch and no one has agreed.
My problem is that I am a social person. I like to be able to bounce ideas off people when working on technical issues and I really thrive on social interaction. I have an active social life, date, and bartend a few nights a week. I'm not socially awkward, and people seem to enjoy chatting with me outside of my office. Heck, people on other teams talk with me. But at work, it's an eight hour stretch of isolation. The person I sit directly next to wears headphones all day so it's an imposition to ask them to discuss anything because they have to take off their earbuds any time we talk. So I've stopped trying. I can easily go an entire day without speaking a word to anyone on my team and it's driving me crazy!
Does anyone have any ideas? I am planning to look for a new job because I feel like I am in solitary confinement 8 hours a day. My last job was not like this, people chatted with each other and socialized. They stopped by my desk to run technical problems back and forth or just plain say hello.
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And if your coworkers prefer to work without unnecessary conversations distracting them? If someone is wearing headphones all day it is probably because they want to avoid conversations.
– Joe W
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Are there other teams in the same area? In other words, are you part of a larger company, where you could ask to be moved to a location where there are chattier people, even if they are working on something completely different?
– thursdaysgeek
yesterday
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Does your office use any chat programs like Discord or Slack? Some people are more receptive to chatting that way.
– Lee Abraham
yesterday
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Sounds like a dream.
– Roman
13 hours ago
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Do they need people? Sounds like heaven!
– ShinEmperor
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I've been at my current job for a few months now, and the lack of conversation is starting to really bother me. Besides me, there are four other employees, and we all sit in the same open office area. My coworkers do not talk to me.. it's not just to me, they don't talk to each other except rarely about technical issues. We all work on separate projects so technical discussions are few and far between. I've tried to chat about mutual interests or the weather or lunch or commuting or ...anything. No one seems interested in any conversation. I've asked folks to get coffee or lunch and no one has agreed.
My problem is that I am a social person. I like to be able to bounce ideas off people when working on technical issues and I really thrive on social interaction. I have an active social life, date, and bartend a few nights a week. I'm not socially awkward, and people seem to enjoy chatting with me outside of my office. Heck, people on other teams talk with me. But at work, it's an eight hour stretch of isolation. The person I sit directly next to wears headphones all day so it's an imposition to ask them to discuss anything because they have to take off their earbuds any time we talk. So I've stopped trying. I can easily go an entire day without speaking a word to anyone on my team and it's driving me crazy!
Does anyone have any ideas? I am planning to look for a new job because I feel like I am in solitary confinement 8 hours a day. My last job was not like this, people chatted with each other and socialized. They stopped by my desk to run technical problems back and forth or just plain say hello.
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I've been at my current job for a few months now, and the lack of conversation is starting to really bother me. Besides me, there are four other employees, and we all sit in the same open office area. My coworkers do not talk to me.. it's not just to me, they don't talk to each other except rarely about technical issues. We all work on separate projects so technical discussions are few and far between. I've tried to chat about mutual interests or the weather or lunch or commuting or ...anything. No one seems interested in any conversation. I've asked folks to get coffee or lunch and no one has agreed.
My problem is that I am a social person. I like to be able to bounce ideas off people when working on technical issues and I really thrive on social interaction. I have an active social life, date, and bartend a few nights a week. I'm not socially awkward, and people seem to enjoy chatting with me outside of my office. Heck, people on other teams talk with me. But at work, it's an eight hour stretch of isolation. The person I sit directly next to wears headphones all day so it's an imposition to ask them to discuss anything because they have to take off their earbuds any time we talk. So I've stopped trying. I can easily go an entire day without speaking a word to anyone on my team and it's driving me crazy!
Does anyone have any ideas? I am planning to look for a new job because I feel like I am in solitary confinement 8 hours a day. My last job was not like this, people chatted with each other and socialized. They stopped by my desk to run technical problems back and forth or just plain say hello.
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And if your coworkers prefer to work without unnecessary conversations distracting them? If someone is wearing headphones all day it is probably because they want to avoid conversations.
– Joe W
yesterday
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Are there other teams in the same area? In other words, are you part of a larger company, where you could ask to be moved to a location where there are chattier people, even if they are working on something completely different?
– thursdaysgeek
yesterday
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Does your office use any chat programs like Discord or Slack? Some people are more receptive to chatting that way.
– Lee Abraham
yesterday
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Sounds like a dream.
– Roman
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Do they need people? Sounds like heaven!
– ShinEmperor
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And if your coworkers prefer to work without unnecessary conversations distracting them? If someone is wearing headphones all day it is probably because they want to avoid conversations.
– Joe W
yesterday
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Are there other teams in the same area? In other words, are you part of a larger company, where you could ask to be moved to a location where there are chattier people, even if they are working on something completely different?
– thursdaysgeek
yesterday
14
Does your office use any chat programs like Discord or Slack? Some people are more receptive to chatting that way.
– Lee Abraham
yesterday
16
Sounds like a dream.
– Roman
13 hours ago
14
Do they need people? Sounds like heaven!
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
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And if your coworkers prefer to work without unnecessary conversations distracting them? If someone is wearing headphones all day it is probably because they want to avoid conversations.
– Joe W
yesterday
And if your coworkers prefer to work without unnecessary conversations distracting them? If someone is wearing headphones all day it is probably because they want to avoid conversations.
– Joe W
yesterday
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Are there other teams in the same area? In other words, are you part of a larger company, where you could ask to be moved to a location where there are chattier people, even if they are working on something completely different?
– thursdaysgeek
yesterday
Are there other teams in the same area? In other words, are you part of a larger company, where you could ask to be moved to a location where there are chattier people, even if they are working on something completely different?
– thursdaysgeek
yesterday
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Does your office use any chat programs like Discord or Slack? Some people are more receptive to chatting that way.
– Lee Abraham
yesterday
Does your office use any chat programs like Discord or Slack? Some people are more receptive to chatting that way.
– Lee Abraham
yesterday
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Sounds like a dream.
– Roman
13 hours ago
Sounds like a dream.
– Roman
13 hours ago
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Do they need people? Sounds like heaven!
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
Do they need people? Sounds like heaven!
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It sounds like you're not a good fit for that office. I wouldn't force the issue with your cowokers as it's not their problem. If they want to work in silence with headphones on for nine hours, and that is how they're most productive, then fine.
What you need to balance is if this is acceptable for you. I have worked on teams like you describe, and I find it difficult. I find the silence can be claustrophobic. Personally, I decided that it wasn't the place for me, and I found a different job.
The only small thing I would add is that if their lack of communication is actually causing you work issues, such as if they're failing to inform you of things you need to do your job, then maybe you have an issue that needs addressing.
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Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
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People who hired you with the thought to put you into that silent office failed to take your and your future coworkers' personalities into account. There's no right or wrong with chatting or no chatting (both can increase and hamper productivity), but you definitely don't fit in with your team. I think it's a serious concern.
If I were in your shoes, I'd try to get a different job in the same company (with the team I know I am on the same wavelength with) or change my employer altogether. You spend most of your waking hours with these people (as they do with you). It is worth trying to make these hours as pleasant as possible, even if that means a major change.
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I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
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We hear the phrase "good fit" so often that It has practically become a cliché.
This, however demonstrates how important it is to fit in not only with the skills, but with the culture.
IN THE FUTURE
Always ask about things regarding the culture. It sounds like a quiet group is not a good fit for you, and vice versa. Since this sounds like it is a big thing to you, always ask.
FOR RIGHT NOW
- See if you can get an internal transfer if you like the company
- Float your resume, get interviews, and ask about the culture in the interviews
- Be prepared to move on if you don't find a good fit within your company.
- See if you can schedule time with your coworkers to chat. (break time, lunch, after work, et cet)
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I am the quiet guy, but I recognise that I'm often too quiet, and have a strategy to increase socialising at work. The same strategy may be of some benefit to you, it has certainly helped me in the past.
Go and buy a large glass bowl, and fill it with candy. Good candy, not like full sized snickers bars, just not the cheap stuff. And only candy with a wrapper.
Sit the filled bowl on your desk.
Wait.
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"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
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Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
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@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
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If you are part of a larger company, you can explain to your boss that you work better when there is some noise and chatting going on. And then ask if it is possible to be moved into a different grouping where that is happening.
You've already said that you work on different projects, so the lack of collaboration won't cause any issues.
Point out that there could be some benefits to the company if you move, as well. You will get some understanding on other aspects of the company (a programmer in the midst of the accountants, for instance, will get ideas for helping the accountants in ways that the isolated programmer would never think of). And there may be someone in another group that is always complaining about all the noise, and who would work better in the quieter environment. Both of those changes would help tear down barriers and reduce silos, which helps the company, not just you.
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Sounds like you're in a room with people that can't or won't be distracted by chit chat.
See if you can keep working there or, if a different climate is important for you, indeed find another employer.
Many people, creative or technical are actually deeply involved in their work and the thought processes coming with it and consider idle talk nonsensical and very disrupting to their process.
Be considerate,.
If they don't engage, let them be.( you've made your effort, they didn't reciprocate)
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Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
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Success is almost never about finding the best situation … most of the time, success comes from about making the best out of the situation you have and that usually entails getting out of your comfort zone and displaying the patience to listen, understand, maybe even motivate or encourage colleagues [without getting paid/recognized for your efforts].
Kudos to you for noticing these differences between your skills and those of your colleagues; it's useful to be able to process and articulate the difficulty you face in a sensible manner as you have … just don't sweat it, the situation is not especially abnormal … learn what you can from carefully observing, noticing, listening to people and look for opportunities to reach out, learn quirks, understand -- those skills will make you a better manager some day in the future [if you want to be a manager] and more immediately, they will make you a more valued contributor to your team.
Obviously, it's always a good idea for a variety of different reasons to keep your eyes open with respect to better opportunities and situations where your social nature is better fit, ie you shouldn't tolerate this indefinitely and it might serve as good motivation to network, look more aggressively, take risks in a new assignment … but in the mean time, make the most of the opportunity … consider the social difficulty or minor aggravation in the same way as one might consider weights at the gym … "heavy lifting" in a social sense might not be fun, but adapting to a social situation that you find uncomfortable and using your differences from others to make your team function better will strengthen your "muscles" in the realm of emotional intelligence.
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Before looking into changing team or even changing job, I'd first see whether you can find any middle ground in your existing team.
I'm also a natural introvert, and find it hugely frustrating to be distracted in the middle of concentrating on a technical issue. (Here's an excellent illustration of that.) And I sometimes find it awkward talking to people, especially if I don't know them well.
But… that doesn't mean I never talk. At times when I'm not concentrating hard, and when there's something worth talking about, I can be sociable enough. It depends on the situation — and that can change.
So is it possible you just haven't found the right time/circumstance to get your co-workers to open up, or the right subject to talk about? Have you tried engaging them at the start/end of the day, or before/after lunchtime, when they come to a natural pause and don't have earbuds in and won't mind the distraction? Have you tried work-related subjects (specific technical issues or more general company-related ones), current affairs, TV, your latest gadget or activity, &c? Simply asking people if they had a good weekend can be a start.
You're not going to turn them into constant chatterers, but you might get to the point where you're all more comfortable together.
If it doesn't work out, then of course you have more drastic options. But I'd try this first. What do you have to lose?!
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If you've tried breaking the ice, and it didn't work after repeated efforts, there's not much more you can do other than to accept it or move on to somewhere else.
For what it's worth, the situation as described seems very unusual. You stumbled into a very uncommon workplace where everyone has put a shell around themselves. It is far more common to have lively interaction in a workplace where people are next to each other. Even in sweat-shop environments people talk and keep each other company.
The good news is that you're likely to not see this problem again if you switch jobs.
Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
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You need to quit and get a new job.
I tend to work silently, and I can tell you that conversation is a massive distraction for me. It's at the point where I've given up on intense focus at work in my office. The thing is that the other people in my office need to talk for technical and social reasons. Not talking would harm their productivity.
Your situation is the reverse. Your talking to your coworkers is going to throw them off or distract them in ways they don't want to be thrown off or distracted. You've also made it pretty clear that you can't go on working like this. The solution for you is simply to leave and find another office that you can work in well. That's really all you can do.
If you try meetings, then they're just going to act the same way they normally do in the meeting. Stand ups might help you, but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
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Well, you got a lot of answers telling you to find a new job, in or outside of the company.
I agree insofar as in my experience you will not find a way to get your colleagues to talk with you. From your name I assume you and your colleagues are developing software, or more strictly coding. I have met a lot of people who prefer to do that quietly all day, and also those that do not ever talk a word to a colleague; or talking in a very functional way only. Sometimes it's just introversion, sometimes they get distracted by chatting, etc. Not bothering people is a meme in many places; people invent signs to signal guys walking in to not start chatting, etc. - it seems to be human nature.
There are other archetypes out there - myself, I have coded a lot in my life, and I can be extremely focused to the point of accidentally ignoring someone standing right next to me, but at the same time I have no problem at all chatting on the side, or taking a small break to chat with someone walking in. But that is the exception, in my experience.
I concur with you that being in a team where people usually don't speak can be quite uncomfortable for us. So don't let them get to you - don't think you're somehow worse because of it. Quite a few of the quiet ones are rather aggressively so, insisting on their right to not be disturbed. The question is not whether they are right, or you are right, but it is just how it is. People are different, and hard/impossible to change.
One further advice I have for your job interviews is to actually talk about this with your next company. I just had an applicant who (and that was a first for me) actually asked not whether he could work from home (most people seem to ask that...), but whether our teams are usually sitting together, and that he is a social person who finds that important. Absolutely do that, be open with it.
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It sounds like you're not a good fit for that office. I wouldn't force the issue with your cowokers as it's not their problem. If they want to work in silence with headphones on for nine hours, and that is how they're most productive, then fine.
What you need to balance is if this is acceptable for you. I have worked on teams like you describe, and I find it difficult. I find the silence can be claustrophobic. Personally, I decided that it wasn't the place for me, and I found a different job.
The only small thing I would add is that if their lack of communication is actually causing you work issues, such as if they're failing to inform you of things you need to do your job, then maybe you have an issue that needs addressing.
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Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
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It sounds like you're not a good fit for that office. I wouldn't force the issue with your cowokers as it's not their problem. If they want to work in silence with headphones on for nine hours, and that is how they're most productive, then fine.
What you need to balance is if this is acceptable for you. I have worked on teams like you describe, and I find it difficult. I find the silence can be claustrophobic. Personally, I decided that it wasn't the place for me, and I found a different job.
The only small thing I would add is that if their lack of communication is actually causing you work issues, such as if they're failing to inform you of things you need to do your job, then maybe you have an issue that needs addressing.
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Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
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It sounds like you're not a good fit for that office. I wouldn't force the issue with your cowokers as it's not their problem. If they want to work in silence with headphones on for nine hours, and that is how they're most productive, then fine.
What you need to balance is if this is acceptable for you. I have worked on teams like you describe, and I find it difficult. I find the silence can be claustrophobic. Personally, I decided that it wasn't the place for me, and I found a different job.
The only small thing I would add is that if their lack of communication is actually causing you work issues, such as if they're failing to inform you of things you need to do your job, then maybe you have an issue that needs addressing.
It sounds like you're not a good fit for that office. I wouldn't force the issue with your cowokers as it's not their problem. If they want to work in silence with headphones on for nine hours, and that is how they're most productive, then fine.
What you need to balance is if this is acceptable for you. I have worked on teams like you describe, and I find it difficult. I find the silence can be claustrophobic. Personally, I decided that it wasn't the place for me, and I found a different job.
The only small thing I would add is that if their lack of communication is actually causing you work issues, such as if they're failing to inform you of things you need to do your job, then maybe you have an issue that needs addressing.
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Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
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Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
1
@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
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Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Thanks man, I appreciate the feedback. You are correct, I am not going to change the fundamental workplace preferences of my teammates, and would not even try. There is a hurdle for even bouncing small technical question off my teammates who wear headphones, because any conversation with them is an imposition. A new job is appropriate.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
Thats a good point. Maybe ask the team lead to set up coffee breaks (where everyone "has" to attend) - you could discuss work related things, or have a team lunch or team building activities? any of those things might break the ice
– vikingsteve
19 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder Good Luck, I really feel you'll be better off in the long run. It's hard because these things can be difficult to judge till you start and it's a difficult thing to phrase right in interview if you want to ask about atmosphere.
– Dustybin80
18 hours ago
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@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
@SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder: Have you tried using an asynchronous channel for those ideas: Discourse, Slack, Mattermost, ... any kind of "team chat" where you could put your question out and any of your team mate can answer at their own convenience?
– Matthieu M.
17 hours ago
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People who hired you with the thought to put you into that silent office failed to take your and your future coworkers' personalities into account. There's no right or wrong with chatting or no chatting (both can increase and hamper productivity), but you definitely don't fit in with your team. I think it's a serious concern.
If I were in your shoes, I'd try to get a different job in the same company (with the team I know I am on the same wavelength with) or change my employer altogether. You spend most of your waking hours with these people (as they do with you). It is worth trying to make these hours as pleasant as possible, even if that means a major change.
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I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
yesterday
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People who hired you with the thought to put you into that silent office failed to take your and your future coworkers' personalities into account. There's no right or wrong with chatting or no chatting (both can increase and hamper productivity), but you definitely don't fit in with your team. I think it's a serious concern.
If I were in your shoes, I'd try to get a different job in the same company (with the team I know I am on the same wavelength with) or change my employer altogether. You spend most of your waking hours with these people (as they do with you). It is worth trying to make these hours as pleasant as possible, even if that means a major change.
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I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
yesterday
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People who hired you with the thought to put you into that silent office failed to take your and your future coworkers' personalities into account. There's no right or wrong with chatting or no chatting (both can increase and hamper productivity), but you definitely don't fit in with your team. I think it's a serious concern.
If I were in your shoes, I'd try to get a different job in the same company (with the team I know I am on the same wavelength with) or change my employer altogether. You spend most of your waking hours with these people (as they do with you). It is worth trying to make these hours as pleasant as possible, even if that means a major change.
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People who hired you with the thought to put you into that silent office failed to take your and your future coworkers' personalities into account. There's no right or wrong with chatting or no chatting (both can increase and hamper productivity), but you definitely don't fit in with your team. I think it's a serious concern.
If I were in your shoes, I'd try to get a different job in the same company (with the team I know I am on the same wavelength with) or change my employer altogether. You spend most of your waking hours with these people (as they do with you). It is worth trying to make these hours as pleasant as possible, even if that means a major change.
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I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
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I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
1
There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
yesterday
1
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I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
I was very talkative and chatty during the interviews, and I wonder if perhaps my manager thought I would be a good contrast to add to the taciturn mix... Either way, it definitely did not work.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
1
1
There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
yesterday
There are so many things to consider when hiring. You were probably the best fit based on knowledge and experience but the manager didn't think about the personality angle (and the HR person didn't know your future coworkers well enough)...
– E.S.
yesterday
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We hear the phrase "good fit" so often that It has practically become a cliché.
This, however demonstrates how important it is to fit in not only with the skills, but with the culture.
IN THE FUTURE
Always ask about things regarding the culture. It sounds like a quiet group is not a good fit for you, and vice versa. Since this sounds like it is a big thing to you, always ask.
FOR RIGHT NOW
- See if you can get an internal transfer if you like the company
- Float your resume, get interviews, and ask about the culture in the interviews
- Be prepared to move on if you don't find a good fit within your company.
- See if you can schedule time with your coworkers to chat. (break time, lunch, after work, et cet)
add a comment |
We hear the phrase "good fit" so often that It has practically become a cliché.
This, however demonstrates how important it is to fit in not only with the skills, but with the culture.
IN THE FUTURE
Always ask about things regarding the culture. It sounds like a quiet group is not a good fit for you, and vice versa. Since this sounds like it is a big thing to you, always ask.
FOR RIGHT NOW
- See if you can get an internal transfer if you like the company
- Float your resume, get interviews, and ask about the culture in the interviews
- Be prepared to move on if you don't find a good fit within your company.
- See if you can schedule time with your coworkers to chat. (break time, lunch, after work, et cet)
add a comment |
We hear the phrase "good fit" so often that It has practically become a cliché.
This, however demonstrates how important it is to fit in not only with the skills, but with the culture.
IN THE FUTURE
Always ask about things regarding the culture. It sounds like a quiet group is not a good fit for you, and vice versa. Since this sounds like it is a big thing to you, always ask.
FOR RIGHT NOW
- See if you can get an internal transfer if you like the company
- Float your resume, get interviews, and ask about the culture in the interviews
- Be prepared to move on if you don't find a good fit within your company.
- See if you can schedule time with your coworkers to chat. (break time, lunch, after work, et cet)
We hear the phrase "good fit" so often that It has practically become a cliché.
This, however demonstrates how important it is to fit in not only with the skills, but with the culture.
IN THE FUTURE
Always ask about things regarding the culture. It sounds like a quiet group is not a good fit for you, and vice versa. Since this sounds like it is a big thing to you, always ask.
FOR RIGHT NOW
- See if you can get an internal transfer if you like the company
- Float your resume, get interviews, and ask about the culture in the interviews
- Be prepared to move on if you don't find a good fit within your company.
- See if you can schedule time with your coworkers to chat. (break time, lunch, after work, et cet)
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I am the quiet guy, but I recognise that I'm often too quiet, and have a strategy to increase socialising at work. The same strategy may be of some benefit to you, it has certainly helped me in the past.
Go and buy a large glass bowl, and fill it with candy. Good candy, not like full sized snickers bars, just not the cheap stuff. And only candy with a wrapper.
Sit the filled bowl on your desk.
Wait.
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"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
yesterday
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Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
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@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
7 hours ago
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I am the quiet guy, but I recognise that I'm often too quiet, and have a strategy to increase socialising at work. The same strategy may be of some benefit to you, it has certainly helped me in the past.
Go and buy a large glass bowl, and fill it with candy. Good candy, not like full sized snickers bars, just not the cheap stuff. And only candy with a wrapper.
Sit the filled bowl on your desk.
Wait.
New contributor
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"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
yesterday
8
Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
5
@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
7 hours ago
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I am the quiet guy, but I recognise that I'm often too quiet, and have a strategy to increase socialising at work. The same strategy may be of some benefit to you, it has certainly helped me in the past.
Go and buy a large glass bowl, and fill it with candy. Good candy, not like full sized snickers bars, just not the cheap stuff. And only candy with a wrapper.
Sit the filled bowl on your desk.
Wait.
New contributor
I am the quiet guy, but I recognise that I'm often too quiet, and have a strategy to increase socialising at work. The same strategy may be of some benefit to you, it has certainly helped me in the past.
Go and buy a large glass bowl, and fill it with candy. Good candy, not like full sized snickers bars, just not the cheap stuff. And only candy with a wrapper.
Sit the filled bowl on your desk.
Wait.
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"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
yesterday
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Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
5
@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
7 hours ago
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"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
yesterday
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Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
5
@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
7 hours ago
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"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
yesterday
"with a wrapper"? Why should the candy have a wrapper?
– Coomie
yesterday
8
8
Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
Unwrapped candy, left open to the environment, can be kind of gross. Flies could contaminate it, people touch it with their grotty fingers, etc.
– user5151179
yesterday
5
5
@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
@Coomie - nobody would want the candy after every coworker's hands has touched the unwrapped pieces.
– Joe Strazzere
yesterday
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
7 hours ago
I like the idea of this on paper but depending on how shy your coworkers are and the culture, they might not ask you for some or start up a conversation. Also this doesn't resolve OP's issue keeping 1 going despite many solid attempts/topics). This could be a solid strategy to start 1, but following through is still in the air. Otherwise dunno how you hope not to disturb anyone else around who prefers to work in silence. Finally beware of allergen concerns!
– user1821961
7 hours ago
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If you are part of a larger company, you can explain to your boss that you work better when there is some noise and chatting going on. And then ask if it is possible to be moved into a different grouping where that is happening.
You've already said that you work on different projects, so the lack of collaboration won't cause any issues.
Point out that there could be some benefits to the company if you move, as well. You will get some understanding on other aspects of the company (a programmer in the midst of the accountants, for instance, will get ideas for helping the accountants in ways that the isolated programmer would never think of). And there may be someone in another group that is always complaining about all the noise, and who would work better in the quieter environment. Both of those changes would help tear down barriers and reduce silos, which helps the company, not just you.
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If you are part of a larger company, you can explain to your boss that you work better when there is some noise and chatting going on. And then ask if it is possible to be moved into a different grouping where that is happening.
You've already said that you work on different projects, so the lack of collaboration won't cause any issues.
Point out that there could be some benefits to the company if you move, as well. You will get some understanding on other aspects of the company (a programmer in the midst of the accountants, for instance, will get ideas for helping the accountants in ways that the isolated programmer would never think of). And there may be someone in another group that is always complaining about all the noise, and who would work better in the quieter environment. Both of those changes would help tear down barriers and reduce silos, which helps the company, not just you.
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If you are part of a larger company, you can explain to your boss that you work better when there is some noise and chatting going on. And then ask if it is possible to be moved into a different grouping where that is happening.
You've already said that you work on different projects, so the lack of collaboration won't cause any issues.
Point out that there could be some benefits to the company if you move, as well. You will get some understanding on other aspects of the company (a programmer in the midst of the accountants, for instance, will get ideas for helping the accountants in ways that the isolated programmer would never think of). And there may be someone in another group that is always complaining about all the noise, and who would work better in the quieter environment. Both of those changes would help tear down barriers and reduce silos, which helps the company, not just you.
If you are part of a larger company, you can explain to your boss that you work better when there is some noise and chatting going on. And then ask if it is possible to be moved into a different grouping where that is happening.
You've already said that you work on different projects, so the lack of collaboration won't cause any issues.
Point out that there could be some benefits to the company if you move, as well. You will get some understanding on other aspects of the company (a programmer in the midst of the accountants, for instance, will get ideas for helping the accountants in ways that the isolated programmer would never think of). And there may be someone in another group that is always complaining about all the noise, and who would work better in the quieter environment. Both of those changes would help tear down barriers and reduce silos, which helps the company, not just you.
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Sounds like you're in a room with people that can't or won't be distracted by chit chat.
See if you can keep working there or, if a different climate is important for you, indeed find another employer.
Many people, creative or technical are actually deeply involved in their work and the thought processes coming with it and consider idle talk nonsensical and very disrupting to their process.
Be considerate,.
If they don't engage, let them be.( you've made your effort, they didn't reciprocate)
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Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
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Sounds like you're in a room with people that can't or won't be distracted by chit chat.
See if you can keep working there or, if a different climate is important for you, indeed find another employer.
Many people, creative or technical are actually deeply involved in their work and the thought processes coming with it and consider idle talk nonsensical and very disrupting to their process.
Be considerate,.
If they don't engage, let them be.( you've made your effort, they didn't reciprocate)
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Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
yesterday
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Sounds like you're in a room with people that can't or won't be distracted by chit chat.
See if you can keep working there or, if a different climate is important for you, indeed find another employer.
Many people, creative or technical are actually deeply involved in their work and the thought processes coming with it and consider idle talk nonsensical and very disrupting to their process.
Be considerate,.
If they don't engage, let them be.( you've made your effort, they didn't reciprocate)
Sounds like you're in a room with people that can't or won't be distracted by chit chat.
See if you can keep working there or, if a different climate is important for you, indeed find another employer.
Many people, creative or technical are actually deeply involved in their work and the thought processes coming with it and consider idle talk nonsensical and very disrupting to their process.
Be considerate,.
If they don't engage, let them be.( you've made your effort, they didn't reciprocate)
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Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
yesterday
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Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
yesterday
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Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Thanks for the feedback. Like I said, I have stopped trying to initiate conversations because I am aware when people don't want to be bothered.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
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Easily the best answer here.
– Fattie
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Success is almost never about finding the best situation … most of the time, success comes from about making the best out of the situation you have and that usually entails getting out of your comfort zone and displaying the patience to listen, understand, maybe even motivate or encourage colleagues [without getting paid/recognized for your efforts].
Kudos to you for noticing these differences between your skills and those of your colleagues; it's useful to be able to process and articulate the difficulty you face in a sensible manner as you have … just don't sweat it, the situation is not especially abnormal … learn what you can from carefully observing, noticing, listening to people and look for opportunities to reach out, learn quirks, understand -- those skills will make you a better manager some day in the future [if you want to be a manager] and more immediately, they will make you a more valued contributor to your team.
Obviously, it's always a good idea for a variety of different reasons to keep your eyes open with respect to better opportunities and situations where your social nature is better fit, ie you shouldn't tolerate this indefinitely and it might serve as good motivation to network, look more aggressively, take risks in a new assignment … but in the mean time, make the most of the opportunity … consider the social difficulty or minor aggravation in the same way as one might consider weights at the gym … "heavy lifting" in a social sense might not be fun, but adapting to a social situation that you find uncomfortable and using your differences from others to make your team function better will strengthen your "muscles" in the realm of emotional intelligence.
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Success is almost never about finding the best situation … most of the time, success comes from about making the best out of the situation you have and that usually entails getting out of your comfort zone and displaying the patience to listen, understand, maybe even motivate or encourage colleagues [without getting paid/recognized for your efforts].
Kudos to you for noticing these differences between your skills and those of your colleagues; it's useful to be able to process and articulate the difficulty you face in a sensible manner as you have … just don't sweat it, the situation is not especially abnormal … learn what you can from carefully observing, noticing, listening to people and look for opportunities to reach out, learn quirks, understand -- those skills will make you a better manager some day in the future [if you want to be a manager] and more immediately, they will make you a more valued contributor to your team.
Obviously, it's always a good idea for a variety of different reasons to keep your eyes open with respect to better opportunities and situations where your social nature is better fit, ie you shouldn't tolerate this indefinitely and it might serve as good motivation to network, look more aggressively, take risks in a new assignment … but in the mean time, make the most of the opportunity … consider the social difficulty or minor aggravation in the same way as one might consider weights at the gym … "heavy lifting" in a social sense might not be fun, but adapting to a social situation that you find uncomfortable and using your differences from others to make your team function better will strengthen your "muscles" in the realm of emotional intelligence.
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Success is almost never about finding the best situation … most of the time, success comes from about making the best out of the situation you have and that usually entails getting out of your comfort zone and displaying the patience to listen, understand, maybe even motivate or encourage colleagues [without getting paid/recognized for your efforts].
Kudos to you for noticing these differences between your skills and those of your colleagues; it's useful to be able to process and articulate the difficulty you face in a sensible manner as you have … just don't sweat it, the situation is not especially abnormal … learn what you can from carefully observing, noticing, listening to people and look for opportunities to reach out, learn quirks, understand -- those skills will make you a better manager some day in the future [if you want to be a manager] and more immediately, they will make you a more valued contributor to your team.
Obviously, it's always a good idea for a variety of different reasons to keep your eyes open with respect to better opportunities and situations where your social nature is better fit, ie you shouldn't tolerate this indefinitely and it might serve as good motivation to network, look more aggressively, take risks in a new assignment … but in the mean time, make the most of the opportunity … consider the social difficulty or minor aggravation in the same way as one might consider weights at the gym … "heavy lifting" in a social sense might not be fun, but adapting to a social situation that you find uncomfortable and using your differences from others to make your team function better will strengthen your "muscles" in the realm of emotional intelligence.
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Success is almost never about finding the best situation … most of the time, success comes from about making the best out of the situation you have and that usually entails getting out of your comfort zone and displaying the patience to listen, understand, maybe even motivate or encourage colleagues [without getting paid/recognized for your efforts].
Kudos to you for noticing these differences between your skills and those of your colleagues; it's useful to be able to process and articulate the difficulty you face in a sensible manner as you have … just don't sweat it, the situation is not especially abnormal … learn what you can from carefully observing, noticing, listening to people and look for opportunities to reach out, learn quirks, understand -- those skills will make you a better manager some day in the future [if you want to be a manager] and more immediately, they will make you a more valued contributor to your team.
Obviously, it's always a good idea for a variety of different reasons to keep your eyes open with respect to better opportunities and situations where your social nature is better fit, ie you shouldn't tolerate this indefinitely and it might serve as good motivation to network, look more aggressively, take risks in a new assignment … but in the mean time, make the most of the opportunity … consider the social difficulty or minor aggravation in the same way as one might consider weights at the gym … "heavy lifting" in a social sense might not be fun, but adapting to a social situation that you find uncomfortable and using your differences from others to make your team function better will strengthen your "muscles" in the realm of emotional intelligence.
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Before looking into changing team or even changing job, I'd first see whether you can find any middle ground in your existing team.
I'm also a natural introvert, and find it hugely frustrating to be distracted in the middle of concentrating on a technical issue. (Here's an excellent illustration of that.) And I sometimes find it awkward talking to people, especially if I don't know them well.
But… that doesn't mean I never talk. At times when I'm not concentrating hard, and when there's something worth talking about, I can be sociable enough. It depends on the situation — and that can change.
So is it possible you just haven't found the right time/circumstance to get your co-workers to open up, or the right subject to talk about? Have you tried engaging them at the start/end of the day, or before/after lunchtime, when they come to a natural pause and don't have earbuds in and won't mind the distraction? Have you tried work-related subjects (specific technical issues or more general company-related ones), current affairs, TV, your latest gadget or activity, &c? Simply asking people if they had a good weekend can be a start.
You're not going to turn them into constant chatterers, but you might get to the point where you're all more comfortable together.
If it doesn't work out, then of course you have more drastic options. But I'd try this first. What do you have to lose?!
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Before looking into changing team or even changing job, I'd first see whether you can find any middle ground in your existing team.
I'm also a natural introvert, and find it hugely frustrating to be distracted in the middle of concentrating on a technical issue. (Here's an excellent illustration of that.) And I sometimes find it awkward talking to people, especially if I don't know them well.
But… that doesn't mean I never talk. At times when I'm not concentrating hard, and when there's something worth talking about, I can be sociable enough. It depends on the situation — and that can change.
So is it possible you just haven't found the right time/circumstance to get your co-workers to open up, or the right subject to talk about? Have you tried engaging them at the start/end of the day, or before/after lunchtime, when they come to a natural pause and don't have earbuds in and won't mind the distraction? Have you tried work-related subjects (specific technical issues or more general company-related ones), current affairs, TV, your latest gadget or activity, &c? Simply asking people if they had a good weekend can be a start.
You're not going to turn them into constant chatterers, but you might get to the point where you're all more comfortable together.
If it doesn't work out, then of course you have more drastic options. But I'd try this first. What do you have to lose?!
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Before looking into changing team or even changing job, I'd first see whether you can find any middle ground in your existing team.
I'm also a natural introvert, and find it hugely frustrating to be distracted in the middle of concentrating on a technical issue. (Here's an excellent illustration of that.) And I sometimes find it awkward talking to people, especially if I don't know them well.
But… that doesn't mean I never talk. At times when I'm not concentrating hard, and when there's something worth talking about, I can be sociable enough. It depends on the situation — and that can change.
So is it possible you just haven't found the right time/circumstance to get your co-workers to open up, or the right subject to talk about? Have you tried engaging them at the start/end of the day, or before/after lunchtime, when they come to a natural pause and don't have earbuds in and won't mind the distraction? Have you tried work-related subjects (specific technical issues or more general company-related ones), current affairs, TV, your latest gadget or activity, &c? Simply asking people if they had a good weekend can be a start.
You're not going to turn them into constant chatterers, but you might get to the point where you're all more comfortable together.
If it doesn't work out, then of course you have more drastic options. But I'd try this first. What do you have to lose?!
Before looking into changing team or even changing job, I'd first see whether you can find any middle ground in your existing team.
I'm also a natural introvert, and find it hugely frustrating to be distracted in the middle of concentrating on a technical issue. (Here's an excellent illustration of that.) And I sometimes find it awkward talking to people, especially if I don't know them well.
But… that doesn't mean I never talk. At times when I'm not concentrating hard, and when there's something worth talking about, I can be sociable enough. It depends on the situation — and that can change.
So is it possible you just haven't found the right time/circumstance to get your co-workers to open up, or the right subject to talk about? Have you tried engaging them at the start/end of the day, or before/after lunchtime, when they come to a natural pause and don't have earbuds in and won't mind the distraction? Have you tried work-related subjects (specific technical issues or more general company-related ones), current affairs, TV, your latest gadget or activity, &c? Simply asking people if they had a good weekend can be a start.
You're not going to turn them into constant chatterers, but you might get to the point where you're all more comfortable together.
If it doesn't work out, then of course you have more drastic options. But I'd try this first. What do you have to lose?!
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If you've tried breaking the ice, and it didn't work after repeated efforts, there's not much more you can do other than to accept it or move on to somewhere else.
For what it's worth, the situation as described seems very unusual. You stumbled into a very uncommon workplace where everyone has put a shell around themselves. It is far more common to have lively interaction in a workplace where people are next to each other. Even in sweat-shop environments people talk and keep each other company.
The good news is that you're likely to not see this problem again if you switch jobs.
Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
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If you've tried breaking the ice, and it didn't work after repeated efforts, there's not much more you can do other than to accept it or move on to somewhere else.
For what it's worth, the situation as described seems very unusual. You stumbled into a very uncommon workplace where everyone has put a shell around themselves. It is far more common to have lively interaction in a workplace where people are next to each other. Even in sweat-shop environments people talk and keep each other company.
The good news is that you're likely to not see this problem again if you switch jobs.
Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
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If you've tried breaking the ice, and it didn't work after repeated efforts, there's not much more you can do other than to accept it or move on to somewhere else.
For what it's worth, the situation as described seems very unusual. You stumbled into a very uncommon workplace where everyone has put a shell around themselves. It is far more common to have lively interaction in a workplace where people are next to each other. Even in sweat-shop environments people talk and keep each other company.
The good news is that you're likely to not see this problem again if you switch jobs.
If you've tried breaking the ice, and it didn't work after repeated efforts, there's not much more you can do other than to accept it or move on to somewhere else.
For what it's worth, the situation as described seems very unusual. You stumbled into a very uncommon workplace where everyone has put a shell around themselves. It is far more common to have lively interaction in a workplace where people are next to each other. Even in sweat-shop environments people talk and keep each other company.
The good news is that you're likely to not see this problem again if you switch jobs.
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Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
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Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Good point, this is a very unusual workplace environment. I've been in my profession for 20 years now and I've never run across a situation like this. There is little chance that the next place will be a room full of people who don;t say a word to each other all day.
– SilentOfficeSolitrayCoder
yesterday
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
Are you sure it's "far more common" in modern tech. development offices, where everyone is wearing noise canceling headphones, etc?
– rogerdpack
15 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
I think it's human nature. Humans are social creatures. This answer touches on what I feel to be a valuable insight. I tend to be the more insular type but I share a cubicle with someone (they're literally two feet away) and every once in a while they'll reach and bug me or goof around. (we have a good relationship) and it lightens the mood and helps relieve stress.
– ShinEmperor
13 hours ago
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You need to quit and get a new job.
I tend to work silently, and I can tell you that conversation is a massive distraction for me. It's at the point where I've given up on intense focus at work in my office. The thing is that the other people in my office need to talk for technical and social reasons. Not talking would harm their productivity.
Your situation is the reverse. Your talking to your coworkers is going to throw them off or distract them in ways they don't want to be thrown off or distracted. You've also made it pretty clear that you can't go on working like this. The solution for you is simply to leave and find another office that you can work in well. That's really all you can do.
If you try meetings, then they're just going to act the same way they normally do in the meeting. Stand ups might help you, but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
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You need to quit and get a new job.
I tend to work silently, and I can tell you that conversation is a massive distraction for me. It's at the point where I've given up on intense focus at work in my office. The thing is that the other people in my office need to talk for technical and social reasons. Not talking would harm their productivity.
Your situation is the reverse. Your talking to your coworkers is going to throw them off or distract them in ways they don't want to be thrown off or distracted. You've also made it pretty clear that you can't go on working like this. The solution for you is simply to leave and find another office that you can work in well. That's really all you can do.
If you try meetings, then they're just going to act the same way they normally do in the meeting. Stand ups might help you, but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
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You need to quit and get a new job.
I tend to work silently, and I can tell you that conversation is a massive distraction for me. It's at the point where I've given up on intense focus at work in my office. The thing is that the other people in my office need to talk for technical and social reasons. Not talking would harm their productivity.
Your situation is the reverse. Your talking to your coworkers is going to throw them off or distract them in ways they don't want to be thrown off or distracted. You've also made it pretty clear that you can't go on working like this. The solution for you is simply to leave and find another office that you can work in well. That's really all you can do.
If you try meetings, then they're just going to act the same way they normally do in the meeting. Stand ups might help you, but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
You need to quit and get a new job.
I tend to work silently, and I can tell you that conversation is a massive distraction for me. It's at the point where I've given up on intense focus at work in my office. The thing is that the other people in my office need to talk for technical and social reasons. Not talking would harm their productivity.
Your situation is the reverse. Your talking to your coworkers is going to throw them off or distract them in ways they don't want to be thrown off or distracted. You've also made it pretty clear that you can't go on working like this. The solution for you is simply to leave and find another office that you can work in well. That's really all you can do.
If you try meetings, then they're just going to act the same way they normally do in the meeting. Stand ups might help you, but I wouldn't bet a lot on it.
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Well, you got a lot of answers telling you to find a new job, in or outside of the company.
I agree insofar as in my experience you will not find a way to get your colleagues to talk with you. From your name I assume you and your colleagues are developing software, or more strictly coding. I have met a lot of people who prefer to do that quietly all day, and also those that do not ever talk a word to a colleague; or talking in a very functional way only. Sometimes it's just introversion, sometimes they get distracted by chatting, etc. Not bothering people is a meme in many places; people invent signs to signal guys walking in to not start chatting, etc. - it seems to be human nature.
There are other archetypes out there - myself, I have coded a lot in my life, and I can be extremely focused to the point of accidentally ignoring someone standing right next to me, but at the same time I have no problem at all chatting on the side, or taking a small break to chat with someone walking in. But that is the exception, in my experience.
I concur with you that being in a team where people usually don't speak can be quite uncomfortable for us. So don't let them get to you - don't think you're somehow worse because of it. Quite a few of the quiet ones are rather aggressively so, insisting on their right to not be disturbed. The question is not whether they are right, or you are right, but it is just how it is. People are different, and hard/impossible to change.
One further advice I have for your job interviews is to actually talk about this with your next company. I just had an applicant who (and that was a first for me) actually asked not whether he could work from home (most people seem to ask that...), but whether our teams are usually sitting together, and that he is a social person who finds that important. Absolutely do that, be open with it.
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Well, you got a lot of answers telling you to find a new job, in or outside of the company.
I agree insofar as in my experience you will not find a way to get your colleagues to talk with you. From your name I assume you and your colleagues are developing software, or more strictly coding. I have met a lot of people who prefer to do that quietly all day, and also those that do not ever talk a word to a colleague; or talking in a very functional way only. Sometimes it's just introversion, sometimes they get distracted by chatting, etc. Not bothering people is a meme in many places; people invent signs to signal guys walking in to not start chatting, etc. - it seems to be human nature.
There are other archetypes out there - myself, I have coded a lot in my life, and I can be extremely focused to the point of accidentally ignoring someone standing right next to me, but at the same time I have no problem at all chatting on the side, or taking a small break to chat with someone walking in. But that is the exception, in my experience.
I concur with you that being in a team where people usually don't speak can be quite uncomfortable for us. So don't let them get to you - don't think you're somehow worse because of it. Quite a few of the quiet ones are rather aggressively so, insisting on their right to not be disturbed. The question is not whether they are right, or you are right, but it is just how it is. People are different, and hard/impossible to change.
One further advice I have for your job interviews is to actually talk about this with your next company. I just had an applicant who (and that was a first for me) actually asked not whether he could work from home (most people seem to ask that...), but whether our teams are usually sitting together, and that he is a social person who finds that important. Absolutely do that, be open with it.
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Well, you got a lot of answers telling you to find a new job, in or outside of the company.
I agree insofar as in my experience you will not find a way to get your colleagues to talk with you. From your name I assume you and your colleagues are developing software, or more strictly coding. I have met a lot of people who prefer to do that quietly all day, and also those that do not ever talk a word to a colleague; or talking in a very functional way only. Sometimes it's just introversion, sometimes they get distracted by chatting, etc. Not bothering people is a meme in many places; people invent signs to signal guys walking in to not start chatting, etc. - it seems to be human nature.
There are other archetypes out there - myself, I have coded a lot in my life, and I can be extremely focused to the point of accidentally ignoring someone standing right next to me, but at the same time I have no problem at all chatting on the side, or taking a small break to chat with someone walking in. But that is the exception, in my experience.
I concur with you that being in a team where people usually don't speak can be quite uncomfortable for us. So don't let them get to you - don't think you're somehow worse because of it. Quite a few of the quiet ones are rather aggressively so, insisting on their right to not be disturbed. The question is not whether they are right, or you are right, but it is just how it is. People are different, and hard/impossible to change.
One further advice I have for your job interviews is to actually talk about this with your next company. I just had an applicant who (and that was a first for me) actually asked not whether he could work from home (most people seem to ask that...), but whether our teams are usually sitting together, and that he is a social person who finds that important. Absolutely do that, be open with it.
Well, you got a lot of answers telling you to find a new job, in or outside of the company.
I agree insofar as in my experience you will not find a way to get your colleagues to talk with you. From your name I assume you and your colleagues are developing software, or more strictly coding. I have met a lot of people who prefer to do that quietly all day, and also those that do not ever talk a word to a colleague; or talking in a very functional way only. Sometimes it's just introversion, sometimes they get distracted by chatting, etc. Not bothering people is a meme in many places; people invent signs to signal guys walking in to not start chatting, etc. - it seems to be human nature.
There are other archetypes out there - myself, I have coded a lot in my life, and I can be extremely focused to the point of accidentally ignoring someone standing right next to me, but at the same time I have no problem at all chatting on the side, or taking a small break to chat with someone walking in. But that is the exception, in my experience.
I concur with you that being in a team where people usually don't speak can be quite uncomfortable for us. So don't let them get to you - don't think you're somehow worse because of it. Quite a few of the quiet ones are rather aggressively so, insisting on their right to not be disturbed. The question is not whether they are right, or you are right, but it is just how it is. People are different, and hard/impossible to change.
One further advice I have for your job interviews is to actually talk about this with your next company. I just had an applicant who (and that was a first for me) actually asked not whether he could work from home (most people seem to ask that...), but whether our teams are usually sitting together, and that he is a social person who finds that important. Absolutely do that, be open with it.
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And if your coworkers prefer to work without unnecessary conversations distracting them? If someone is wearing headphones all day it is probably because they want to avoid conversations.
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Are there other teams in the same area? In other words, are you part of a larger company, where you could ask to be moved to a location where there are chattier people, even if they are working on something completely different?
– thursdaysgeek
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Does your office use any chat programs like Discord or Slack? Some people are more receptive to chatting that way.
– Lee Abraham
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Sounds like a dream.
– Roman
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Do they need people? Sounds like heaven!
– ShinEmperor
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